Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dh03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dh03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.23]) by air-dc01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC014-869f4b58a220b8; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:51:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dh03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0E4DC380000A9; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:51:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NY26C-0006LI-2S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:49:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NY26B-0006L9-3W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:49:43 +0000 Received: from mail-px0-f187.google.com ([209.85.216.187]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NY268-0007z9-Dj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:49:43 +0000 Received: by pxi17 with SMTP id 17so348188pxi.30 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:49:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MJvBjSGMDw0SZ11/7C7SCFtxTkuxaIgb4Q2B9eK1i7I=; b=iv0ast+eZEukcnaUSjyYrl3vlABSlFK28cKwQYR9lRn45tHL0iPmm1K4BkP2kwG9in BA7SydwG8P94IDgrLkt/bL/QwsClAY0y8P5vOHzGIWrSIDUjL5KXhhMgQ7onBepDgWcL 29/qBqd+YJrpplJocTZhw9E1bKznagj92aP+I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iDuo7+EnBq/6ue9rSol2mgurJU4n19WWkMCrsAoL6NwmpEzkipr1CLqcsS/b8dImoJ T4UMgzkJBXB1NYwQ7ymXJp3s8qf57/nHRm8NG0PDLKn3ltc92NVBG5fJnZng78iXhj16 iLv7s4ko1cGxnfonWz2++FwHjF3XYaWrmOZcs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.214.24 with SMTP id r24mr1295266rvq.27.1264099772369; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:49:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1128689800.1264030506.47635240.13375@mcgi64.rambler.ru> References: <126980379.1263435061.156205952.17650@mcgi37.rambler.ru> <1f0624b91001140353le8ae77brd1d1180757a9f8f6@mail.gmail.com> <1EFCA9A32D95487BB1DEAD82067AC23B@TraceyPC> <1f0624b91001140606p6b1a31eew7f33d9fdf9af5b1f@mail.gmail.com> <1f0624b91001141210s3bcff9d7vfaf87d6e44afc4b9@mail.gmail.com> <1190791598.1263504602.167115768.21220@mcgi57.rambler.ru> <1f0624b91001150224pc606410yc900cb9ab5bab7ff@mail.gmail.com> <1128689800.1264030506.47635240.13375@mcgi64.rambler.ru> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:49:32 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d01bc772f8f48631 Message-ID: <1f0624b91001211049n403bb863j5cc5244b3adedc99@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF:498.8 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1a8cce48b52047db1297d X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41174b58a21d341e X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd1a8cce48b52047db1297d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Roman, I do not know where the signal came from, I think it must have been generated with the other sound card. The strange thing was that it was not there during daylight. Having just stated that about signal not there during daylight, the street light outside nearby has just developed a fault, it now keeps going off for 30 to 60 seconds & coming back on again. The "signal" could be due to the faulty street light, waiting now for the local authority engineers to repair the light. When it has been repairedI can connect back to the other sound card & check. 73, Gary - G4WGT. 2010/1/20 Roman RW3ADB > Hi Gary, LF! > OK, I'm understood. > There is no any ideas what is a signal? > > Roman > > * Gary - G4WGT [Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:24:36 +0000]: > > Roman, LF, >> >> I realise I have resolved the issue of the "signal" but the spectrum >> line >> that appeared at the bottom of the display looked like it was a >> > repeated > >> 1 >> minute segment. It was in fact a continuous signal which was broken >> > into > >> 1 >> minute lengths by the time label at the bottom which is in a black box >> for >> clearer display. >> >> 73, Gary - G4WGT >> >> >> 2010/1/14 Roman RW3ADB >> >> > Hi Gary, LF! >> > TNX to all for the details and participation in identification. >> > I thought about an NDB, but signal was so very long 1 minute. >> > Is't real to be an NDB ID. >> > Some time he was like a carrier on the screen. >> > >> > * Gary - G4WGT [Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:10:59 >> +0000]: >> > >> >> Hi All at LF, >> >> >> >> Update on previous mails regarding 498.800 kHz. >> >> >> >> The signal is not really there, I tried to Rx it on my "real" >> > radios > >> >> using >> >> my 500 kHz vertical & there was nothing there. I was able to Rx a >> >> >> > couple >> > >> > Do you tried to rx today or yesterday? >> > That signal is absent today on the grabber. >> > >> > of >> >> NDB's a little lower at good strength but nothing on 498.800 kHz. >> > Yet > >> >> >> > it >> > >> >> was >> >> there good & strong on the SoftRock SDR I use for the grabber. >> >> >> >> My next move was to connect to another sound card & not only was >> > the > >> >> signal >> >> not there on 498.800 kHz a great deal of hash & other interference >> had >> >> disappeared as well. >> >> >> >> You will notice a much better display now on the grabber, the sound >> >> >> > card >> > >> >> is >> >> an external Creative Sound Blaster Live 24 bit. >> >> >> >> 73, Gary - G4WGT. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2010/1/14 Gary - G4WGT >> >> >> >> > Hi Tracey, >> >> > >> >> > Thanks, I have looked at the list & the nearest is the following >> >> >> > UNID >> > >> >> :- >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> 498.7< >> > >> >> > http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/?mode=signal_list&filter_khz_1=498.7&filter_khz_2=498.7&limit=-1 > >> > > >> > >> >> > *NT* 0 UNID >> >> >> >> >> >> XUU > >> > >> >> > UNID ENG IRL *2* 2005-08-28 >> >> > Not sufficient info at the moment, I will see if I can copy an ID >> >> when/if >> >> > it gets strong enough. >> >> > >> >> > 73, Gary - G4WGT. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > 2010/1/14 Tracey Gardner >> >> > >> >> > Hello Gary >> >> >> >> >> >> Have you checked the REU list for your signal? >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/ >> >> >> >> >> >> If you do a search between 497kHz and 500kHz you'll find that >> there >> >> are a >> >> >> good number of unid NDBs in that area. >> >> >> >> >> >> Tracey >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> *From:* Gary - G4WGT >> >> >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:53 AM >> >> >> *Subject:* Re: LF:498.8 >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Roman, LF, >> >> >> >> >> >> I have also noticed the signal on 498.800 kHz. >> >> >> >> >> >> I have looked back at 3 days grabber saves & the signal fades in >> at >> >> about >> >> >> 1530utc & fades out at about 0700utc the following morning. At >> >> >> > times >> > >> >> there >> >> >> appears to an accompanying parallel signal about 1 kHz higher >> which >> >> looks >> >> >> like an NDB ID (see attachment), but nothing on my lists for an >> NDB >> >> on that >> >> >> frequency. >> >> >> >> >> >> I will set up another SpecLab to monitor that frequency & a few >> kHz >> >> either >> >> >> side to watch for an ID type signal on the LF side as well as >> > the > >> >> >> > HF >> > >> >> side of >> >> >> the carrier. I will report my findings to LF for anyne who may >> > be > >> >> >> interested. >> >> >> >> >> >> 73, Gary - G4WGT. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2010/1/14 Roman RW3ADB >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hi LF! >> >> >>> What is a signal are visible onto G4WGT grabber around 498.8 >> > kHz? > >> >> >>> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2010/20100113_498.8/capt500-4.jpg >> >> >>> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2010/20100113_498.8/capt500-4.1.jpg >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> Roman RW3ADB. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Roman RW3ADB. >> > >> > >> > > > > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > --000e0cd1a8cce48b52047db1297d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roman,

I do not know where the signal came from, I= think it must have been generated with the other sound card.=A0The strang= e thing was that it was not there during daylight.

Having just stated that about signal not there during daylight, the stre= et light outside nearby has just developed a fault, it now keeps going off= for 30 to 60 seconds & coming back on again.

The "signal" could be due to the faulty stre= et light, waiting now for the local authority engineers to repair the ligh= t. When it has been repairedI can connect back to the other sound card &am= p; check.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.
<= br>



2010/1/20 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
Hi Gary, LF!
OK, I'm understood.
There is no any ideas what is a signal?

Roman

* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> [Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:24:36 +0000]:
=

Roman, LF,

I realise I have resolved the issue of the "signal" but the spec= trum
line
that appeared at the bottom of the display looked like it was a
repeated
1
minute segment. It was in fact a continuous signal which was broken
into
1
minute lengths by the time label at the bottom which is in a black box
for
clearer display.

73, Gary - G4WGT


2010/1/14 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>

> Hi Gary, LF!
> TNX to all for the details and participation in identification.
> I thought about an NDB, but signal was so very long 1 minute.
> Is't real to be an NDB ID.
> Some time he was like a carrier on the screen.
>
> * Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> [Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:10:59
+0000]:
>
>> Hi All at LF,
>>
>> Update on previous mails regarding 498.800 kHz.
>>
>> The signal is not really there, I tried to Rx it on my "real= "
radios
>> using
>> my 500 kHz vertical & there was nothing there. I was able to= Rx a
>>
> couple
>
> Do you tried to rx today or yesterday?
> That signal is absent today on the grabber.
>
> =A0of
>> NDB's a little lower at good strength but nothing on 498.800= kHz.
Yet
>>
> it
>
>> was
>> there good & strong on the SoftRock SDR I use for the grabber= .
>>
>> My next move was to connect to another sound card & not only= was
the
>> signal
>> not there on 498.800 kHz a great deal of hash & other interfe= rence
had
>> disappeared as well.
>>
>> You will notice a much better display now on the grabber, the sou= nd
>>
> card
>
>> is
>> an external Creative Sound Blaster Live 24 bit.
>>
>> 73, Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/1/14 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>>
>> > Hi Tracey,
>> >
>> > Thanks, I have looked at the list & the nearest is the= following
>>
> UNID
>
>> :-
>> >
>> >
>>
>> =A0498.7<
>

http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/?mode=3Dsignal_list&filter_khz_1= =3D498.7&filter_khz_2=3D498.7&limit=3D-1
> >
>
>> > *NT* =A0 0 =A0 UNID
>>
>>

XUU<http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/= ?mode=3Dsignal_list&filter_itu=3DXUU>
>
>> > =A0 =A0UNID ENG IRL *2* 2005-08-28
>> > Not sufficient info at the moment, I will see if I can copy= an ID
>> when/if
>> > it gets strong enough.
>> >
>> > 73, Gary - G4WGT.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2010/1/14 Tracey Gardner <tracey.gardner@talktalk.net>
>> >
>> > =A0Hello Gary
>> >>
>> >> Have you checked the REU list for your signal?
>> >>
>> >> http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/
>> >>
>> >> If you do a search between 497kHz and 500kHz you'll= find that
there
>> are a
>> >> good number of unid NDBs in that area.
>> >>
>> >> Tracey
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> *From:* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>> >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:53 AM
>> >> *Subject:* Re: LF:498.8
>> >>
>> >> Hi Roman, LF,
>> >>
>> >> I have also noticed the signal on 498.800 kHz.
>> >>
>> >> I have looked back at 3 days grabber saves & the sig= nal fades in
at
>> about
>> >> 1530utc & fades out at about 0700utc the following= morning. At
>>
> times
>
>> there
>> >> appears to an accompanying parallel signal about 1 kHz= higher
which
>> looks
>> >> like an NDB ID (see attachment), but nothing on my lists= for an
NDB
>> on that
>> >> frequency.
>> >>
>> >> I will set up another SpecLab to monitor that frequency= & a few
kHz
>> either
>> >> side to watch for an ID type signal on the LF side as we= ll as
the
>>
> HF
>
>> side of
>> >> the carrier. I will report my findings to LF for anyne= who may
be
>> >> interested.
>> >>
>> >> 73, =A0Gary - G4WGT.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2010/1/14 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi LF!
>> >>> What is a signal are visible onto G4WGT grabber arou= nd 498.8
kHz?
>> >>> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2010/20100113_49= 8.8/capt500-4.jpg
>> >>> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2010/20100113_= 498.8/capt500-4.1.jpg
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Roman RW3ADB.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Roman RW3ADB.
>
>




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Roman RW3ADB.


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