Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (rly-dc04.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.33]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC061-b1b4acb0cb3193; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 05:24:19 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc04.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC047-b1b4acb0cb3193; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 05:24:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Mv6Fp-0000HP-LB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:22:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Mv6Fo-0000HG-Vt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:22:44 +0100 Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com ([209.85.219.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Mv6EP-0004kk-My for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:21:19 +0100 Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so4406973ewy.17 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 02:22:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jV8Ihnx/cox1IXr01oMf7orADe3PBxBM6+mCtkH1V1Q=; b=LVchPI2IHwpGUFmGNJjp7fTc3PWAaDQRug97Bpi5nnrEsH983CgrNnVoEKIhDKpekb 9pqvUKndTdTE3RRrhoAhZrBOwmx9+ONUELFFxIlgX+kZTllUJmftnki+1qb4MPOgeG2s +n3hCiCc3Jym5yF6zUga3qApe++l79L/Yp9v8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QOXWlB95R6u6oovKo+ORhe0rsefg9Zcrg0MeW4KOwiH8Yx6QzL7aX56se1bvOpHeg1 YZ7lwI/RtOFHdD54k0hz33cc8tU1eT3xnORDdL+e4KAf4qRXHAhXhVlwXUJ9MjcdySCj 0MBUGGtThIGdmsC+14kzz9enutU6EKEKcDBho= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.211.155.11 with SMTP id h11mr1191255ebo.62.1254820947491; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 02:22:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <30DA2B8A618642F1964D6538BC44C658@HPt680a> References: <1f0624b90910050228j683a0698nbd2f7129453fed9d@mail.gmail.com> <5366955AF11F40518FB761BA5C4799EB@HPt680a> <1f0624b90910050655h5141db5bq4fb92142d62765bc@mail.gmail.com> <30DA2B8A618642F1964D6538BC44C658@HPt680a> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:22:27 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a18383b46196ea0b Message-ID: <1f0624b90910060222o7b56fa3fic8536023ea863d4b@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers.... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502ca5ad4facd047540c4df X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d308.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00504502ca5ad4facd047540c4df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Steve, Well, I can't see any reason for the non-connect from my end, I will give you my main web address & you can try from the links page (if you get in that is) :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ Also you could try from the links on the UK500KHZ group home page :- http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz You are correct regarding the operation of slow rate 24/7 signals, the nearest to that are a few experimental EU stations a around 505.200kHz but usually only using QRS03 or QRS10. IN VIEW OF THE PROBLEMS STEVE IS HAVING WITH MY GRABBER, WILL OTHERS PLEASE TRY IT & REPORT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS. 73 Gary - G4WGT. 2009/10/5 VK2ZTO > G'day Gary, > > Sorry - still can't connect. Perhaps someone else should try. > > Sorry to all for using the 'B' word - I of course meant MEPT.... > > A bit of research makes me think there are no 24/7 QRSS30 or slower MEPTs > operating on 500kc in the UK/EU - or at least none that I can find. > > My intent was to leave ARGO going overnight here (local time) each day(sic) > for a period of time to see if, by some chance, I could see anything this > far away. > > Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfortunately for some inexplicable reason I > cannot see it currently. In any case, I would still need a regular MEPT > with long carrier bursts, and that appears not to be the case. > > Thanks for the help and info. > > 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV) > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Gary - G4WGT > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:55 AM > *Subject:* Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers.... > > Hi Steve, > Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (1348utc) there > is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a message "Grabber > Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday (hard disk > backup's etc). > > You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are random but > mine is 24/7. > > Here is the url again just in case :- > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. > > 2009/10/5 VK2ZTO > >> G'day Gary, >> >> There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum here down >> under in VK-land.... >> >> Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect". >> >> From the links on the Google site I get the following results. >> >> 1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009. >> 2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008. >> 3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008. >> 4. GM4ISM - can't connect. >> 5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008. >> 6. RN3AGC - can't connect. >> >> The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link. >> >> What am I missing ? >> >> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV) >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Gary - G4WGT >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Sent:* Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM >> *Subject:* Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers.... >> >> Hi Steve, >> A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :- >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers >> >> Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :- >> >> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html >> >> 73 >> >> Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. >> >> >> >> 2009/10/5 VK2ZTO >> >>> G'day All, >>> >>> In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in getting details >>> of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe. To get >>> real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking for relevant local >>> grabbers for those beacons. >>> >>> 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV) >>> >>> >> > --00504502ca5ad4facd047540c4df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Steve,

Well, I can't see any reason for the non-= connect from my end, I will give you my main web address & you can try= from the links page (if you get in that is) :-

<= a href=3D"http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/">http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk= /wgtaylor/

Also you could try from the links on the UK500KHZ grou= p home page :-

You are correct regarding the operation of slow rate 24/7 signa= ls, the nearest to that are a few experimental EU stations a around 505.20= 0kHz but usually only using QRS03 or QRS10.

IN VI= EW OF THE PROBLEMS STEVE IS HAVING WITH MY GRABBER, WILL OTHERS PLEASE TRY= IT & REPORT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS.

73

Gary - G4WGT.




<= a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz">



2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>
G'day Gary,
=A0
Sorry - still can't connect.=A0= =A0 Perhaps=20 someone else should try.
=A0
Sorry to all for using the 'B'= ; word - I of course=20 meant MEPT....
=A0
A bit of research makes me think ther= e are no 24/7=20 QRSS30 or slower MEPTs operating on 500kc in the UK/EU=A0- or at least non= e=20 that I can find.
=A0
My intent was to leave ARGO going ove= rnight here=20 (local time) each day(sic) for a period of time to see if, by some chance,= I=20 could see anything this far away.
=A0
Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfortunat= ely for some=20 inexplicable reason I cannot see it currently.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0In=20 any case,=A0I would still need a regular MEPT with long carrier bursts, an= d=20 that appears not to be the case.
=A0
Thanks for the help and info.<= /div>
=A0
73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gary -=20 G4WGT
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12= :55=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and= =20 grabbers....

Hi Steve,

Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (1348ut= c)=20 there is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a message "= ;Grabber=20 Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday (hard dis= k backup's=20 etc).

You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are rand= om but=20 mine is 24/7.

Here is the url again just in case :-


73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com>=
G'day Gary,
=A0
There currently seems to be a ren= d in the=20 time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....
=A0
Apart from your site - for which= I get a "can't=20 connect".
=A0
From the links on=A0the Google si= te I get=20 the following results.
=A0
1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009.
2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008.
3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov= =20 2008.
4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008.
6. RN3AGC - can't connect.
=A0
The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/g= rab/=A0link.
=A0
What am I missing ?
=A0
73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009= 8:28=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons= and=20 grabbers....

Hi Steve,=20

A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at :-


Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.



2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra.com= >
G'day All,

In an= expression of extreme optimism=20 I am interested in getting details of 500kc beacons (preferably QR= SS30=20 and slower) in Europe. =A0 =A0To get real-time confirmation of=20 on-air status I am also looking for relevant local grabbers for th= ose=20 beacons.

73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20


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