Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,NO_REAL_NAME,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u3BH91tn006918 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 19:09:01 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1apfHZ-0004H1-6a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:05:49 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1apfHY-0004Gr-TK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:05:48 +0100 Received: from smtp-out01.xworks.net ([31.25.48.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1apfHX-00081V-5W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:05:47 +0100 Received: from mailbackend1 (cluster06.xworks.net [10.100.1.80]) by smtp-out01.xworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320C061373 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 19:05:46 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=kabelmail.de Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kabelmail.de; s=mail; t=1460394346; bh=4zGKkrjXWtkg9Tjtusj49CC4fVo9KLU9KQtbRsCBnsA=; h=In-Reply-To:From:To:Date:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-type; b=zKIvU2VZbzdn80SVxMYjn3RyVKvdVlYTrrh/q5lZlVRN8frXnt5KktpoN+dYcbWJo ocd3BOOAuwWbYn9szBmWcyrmSKh7Ws6NmBTnJ25jtpfV8TGbf3wFPyUpEILXaWlx7M Q6wRl/sj3E4NaqPkR4JpCKYDYMEBLMYwDy38EC2I= In-Reply-To: <154061ebe71-71ed-9875@webprd-m08.mail.aol.com> From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <1e5ec67882dd4d26926f8877e4f48beb@kabelmail.de> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 19:05:43 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: 60b21f5b7eb190e65b65540006a87038 Subject: AW: Re: VLF: 8269.990Hz Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7661

Thanks, Paul=2E

Congrats to S= tefan and Markus=2E

The EbNaut Sender is prepared for = length 5, retaining period 30=2E
But: this afternoon the sky suddenly turned = from blue to dark grey, so possibly the TX stays off=2E

We will see=2E
Uwe



 
Von: Markus Vester <markusvester@aol=2Ecom>
Gesendet: 11=2E04=2E2016 18= :26
An:<= /b> <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg>
Betreff: Re: VLF: 8269=2E990Hz 
 
Uwe,
 
=2E=2E=2E me too ;-) I was actually surprised ab= out the successful decode because the nighttime carrier was well visibl= e in Heidelberg but not at all in my spectrogram=2E
 
<= font face=3D"arial" size=3D"2" color=3D"black">Anyway both our decodes = were close to the limit, so for the next step I would suggest= to try 5 char but stay with 30 sec symbols=2E Due to the FEC and = CRC overhead, going from 3 to 5 characters (1=2E667 x payload= ) will increase the total time only by a factor of  = ;1=2E23 so we already loose 1=2E32 dB sensitivity=2E Shortening th= e symbols from 30 to 20 seconds would cost another 1=2E76 dB=2E<= /div>
 =
Thanks = for the test!
 
All the best,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
 
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung---= --
Von: DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo=2Ede>
An: rsgb_lf_group = <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep=2Eorg>
Verschickt: Mo, 11 Apr 2016 2= :56 pm
Betreff: Re: VLF: 8269=2E990Hz

 
Hello Uwe,

Thanks for the VLF transmis= sion=2E No problem to decode the message! See attachment=2E
If Marku= s can decode and no other station wants to try, maybe we can try 20s sy= mbols and 5 characters, your callsign for example :-)

As you pro= bably saw, i saw your carrier on 8269=2E99 Hz in my 6000 window in the = city but not in the forest=2E Either it is a propagation phenomenon tha= t i don't understand yet or there is still something wrong with the dri= ft calibration=2E I will today go on the tree again to re-configure the= GPS-module and see if this makes a difference=2E=2E=2E

73, Stef= an

Am 10=2E04=2E2016 22:30, schrieb uwe-jannsen@kabelmail=2Ede:
the carrier is on the air=2E
the message:=
start 2016-04-11 07:00:00
= co= ding 8K19A
CRC 16
period 30
length 3
duration 03:28:00:00
Have fun
Uwe/dj8wx