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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: The more one looks at this , the more sensible it becomes , I like the idea of a wide band mixed modes area 474 usb , As without any formalities we can see the more primitive modes are congregating in the centre of the band , assumedly necessary prevent out of band transmissions due to vfo drift or the like ? [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: e43fe7093e9b3ae0dc118eec4efba8a5 Subject: Re: LF: 630m Band Plan Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010E_01CDE9D1.555912F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404950e5bb7c0492 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_010E_01CDE9D1.555912F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The more one looks at this , the more sensible it becomes , I = like the idea of a wide band mixed modes area 474 usb ,=20 As without any formalities we can see the more primitive modes = are congregating in the centre of the band , assumedly necessary = prevent out of band transmissions due to vfo drift or the like ? G ) From: KKorn42@aol.com=20 Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:18 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: 630m Band Plan Dear All as a first proposal for discussion we present a "plan" that we coined = the "B31 Band Plan for 630m". The name derives from the DOK to which all = who shared ideas, belong. Just to state it once more: it is a first basis and proposal and those = who have an interest in operation between 472kHz and 479kHz (up to now = the slot allocated by the BuNetzA to German hams) are invited to agree, = discuss or provide better ideas. Several hams already provided specific proposals which were = incorporated. We deliberately did not detail too much, as we do not think, that all = can be fixed prior to actual demand. Please see attached gif-file. 1. A CW slot from 472kHz to 475kHz (=3D3kHz). 2. Within that, a region for beacons (472,000kHz to 472,150kHz) followed = by a region for Slow CW (472,150kHz to 472,300kHz). 3. For TA-CW DX traffic or other long-haul DX, a calling frequency shall = be established at 472,600kHz. 4. For other CW traffic, another calling frequency (if the necessity = exists) shall be established in the upper region of the CW allocation at = 474,750kHz (474,500 occupied by "SA"). 5. The frequency 472,500kHz will not be allocated for special use (at = least for the time being), as a continuous carrier is audible 24/7 = throughout DL. 6. A slot for Digital Modes from 475,0kHz to 479,0 (=3D 4kHz). 7. Today it is much too early to decide which digital modes will be used = on 630m. We propose to leave this open for the future. WSPR (474,200kHz = Dial USB), OPERA and ROS (477,000kHz DIAL USB) have established = themselves on the shown frequencies. Some other modes that may be useful = for MW but can not yet be used (e.g. JT65HF) because they allow no = suitable frequency selection. 8. Digital Modes should not overlap each other (minor relocations may be = necessary). 9. Whether or not the shown "protection zones" of e.g. +/- 50Hz around = active NDB frequencies are necessary or not, ist still being discussed. 10. No further stipulations will be given. Walter DJ2LF, Roland DL3NDR, Klaus DJ6LB NB (DJ6LB): Upon request I provide (via separate mail) a picture with = better resolution .=20 ------=_NextPart_000_010E_01CDE9D1.555912F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The  more  one  = looks=20 at  this , the  more  sensible  it  = becomes =20 ,  I like the  idea  of  a  wide  = band  mixed=20 modes   area   474 usb  ,
 
As without  any  = formalities =20 we  can  see  the  more  primitive  =20 modes  are  congregating  in the  centre  of = the =20 band , assumedly necessary  prevent out of band transmissions = due=20 to  vfo  drift  or the  like  ?
 
G )
 
 

From: KKorn42@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:18 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: LF: 630m Band Plan

Dear All
as a first proposal for discussion we present a "plan" = that we=20 coined the "B31 Band Plan for 630m". The name derives from the DOK to = which all=20 who shared ideas, belong.
Just to state it once more: it is a first = basis and=20 proposal and those who have an interest in operation between 472kHz and = 479kHz=20 (up to now the slot allocated by the BuNetzA to German hams) are invited = to=20 agree, discuss or provide better ideas.
Several hams already provided = specific proposals which were incorporated.
We deliberately did not = detail=20 too much, as we do not think, that all can be fixed prior to actual=20 demand.
 
Please see attached gif-file.
 
1. A CW slot from 472kHz to 475kHz (=3D3kHz).
2. Within that, a = region for=20 beacons (472,000kHz to 472,150kHz) followed by a region for Slow CW = (472,150kHz=20 to 472,300kHz).
3. For TA-CW DX traffic or other long-haul DX, a = calling=20 frequency shall be established at 472,600kHz.
4. For other CW = traffic,=20 another calling frequency (if the necessity exists) shall be established = in the=20 upper region of the CW allocation at 474,750kHz (474,500 occupied by=20 "SA").
5. The frequency 472,500kHz will not be allocated for special = use (at=20 least for the time being), as a continuous carrier is audible 24/7 = throughout=20 DL.
6. A slot for Digital Modes from 475,0kHz to 479,0 (=3D = 4kHz).
7. Today=20 it is much too early to decide which digital modes will be used on 630m. = We=20 propose to leave this open for the future. WSPR (474,200kHz Dial USB), = OPERA and=20 ROS (477,000kHz DIAL USB) have established themselves on the shown = frequencies.=20 Some other modes that may be useful for MW but can not yet be used (e.g. = JT65HF)=20 because they allow no suitable frequency selection.
8. Digital Modes = should=20 not overlap each other (minor relocations may be necessary).
9. = Whether or=20 not the shown "protection zones" of e.g. +/- 50Hz around active NDB = frequencies=20 are necessary or not, ist still being discussed.
10. No further = stipulations=20 will be given.
 
Walter DJ2LF, Roland DL3NDR, Klaus DJ6LB
 
NB (DJ6LB): Upon request I provide (via separate mail) a picture = with=20 better resolution .
 
 
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