Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (rly-mf01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.171]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINMF044-94048adce8c124; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:22:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF016-94048adce8c124; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:22:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KWGev-0005uU-DL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:21:29 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KWGeu-0005uL-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:21:28 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.159]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KWGer-00018p-Kr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:21:28 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3413.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4B81E1C0008B for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:21:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.61.102]) by mwinf3413.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1B4261C00086 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:21:17 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080821202117111.1B4261C00086@mwinf3413.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1ED6E58E4A6A4E8E801AF303F0C61DE9@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <281222.921.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001301c901e6$917c2d30$2201a8c0@PC2> <731EB49F88B309428FFDDD2423F810E441C128@HERMES4.ds.leeds.ac.uk> <48AADCE5.7070602@virgin.net> <034D836CD37D497C80547813F78DE240@AGB> <48AB191F.2070100@w1tag.com> <2BD00AC139914C138F0FB6FE5FB00F4D@AGB> <48AD575F.3010204@w1tag.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:21:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Ok John, I spent a while last year looking for modes that would go through these 'Meat grinder' transmission systems , only found , RTTY , Amtor arq/fec, Pactor arq/fec and Hf Packet , 'hell' of course , but thats in a gray zone .... I think the original Jason system will but with the advent of 'Bill's joined up writing, windows 'xp' it looks to of fallen over ..My version crashes on rx/tx change over . I think it made sequential frequency change steps, which where measured by rx software and thus determined the character .... which on 500 would be a good system, with no lock up time and presumably would print correctly to the point of loosing the last set of tones ?... Graham .. Ps (Alberto, any chance of a recompiled 'xp' version ? ) -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Andrews" Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:54 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Keyboard Modes for 600 Meters > > Graham, > >> I think you will find , olivia runs more than one tone at any one time >> and produces a 'two tone test' envelope , simple check, view the sound >> card o/p on a scope ? > > (Belated reply...) Yes, you are correct about Olivia -- easily confirmed > with a scope in a short on-air test. This once again teaches me not to > make quick observations while at work! > > John W1TAG > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 08:12 > > >