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DK7FC was still decoding sporadically here, but DF2JP not at all this = evening, though I could clearly see the two traces side by side. Looks = like there is always only one decode per time slot? To possibly aid debugging, I have uploaded six wavs to http://df6nm.bplaced.net/wsjt/jt9-2_df6nm_121028/ along with a text log indicating successful and failed decodes. "Dial = frequency" of my grabber RX is fixed at 135.5 kHz, and the decoder was = centered on 1930 Hz. =20 Unlike WSPR, the nominal frequency appears to be not the center but the = lower edge of the transmitted band. This is also apparent in the = screenshot in the quickstart guide.=20 For some reason, at the end of each transmission there occurs a short = "burp", consisting of a two tone burst approximately +- 23 Hz from the = nominal frequency. Best 73 Markus (DF6NM) =20 From: Rik Strobbe=20 Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:16 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: no decodes, help needed Wolf, Stefan, all, that's what I got here: 1750 8 -23 0.4 1430.59 0.00 DK7FC TEST 5W =20 1754 6 -24 0.4 1430.59 0.00 DK7FC TEST 5W =20 1758 7 -24 0.4 1430.43 0.00 DK7FC TEST 5W =20 1810 8 -23 0.4 1430.59 0.00 DK7FC TEST 5W =20 1814 10 -23 0.4 1430.35 0.00 DK7FC TEST 5W =20 1822 5 -25 0.4 1430.43 0.00 DK7FC TEST 5W =20 1826 10 -21 -0.1 1450.94 0.00 CQ DF2JP JO31 =20 1830 10 -21 -0.1 1450.94 0.00 CQ DF2JP JO31 =20 1834 10 -20 0.1 1450.94 0.00 CQ DF2JP JO31 =20 1838 10 -19 0.0 1450.94 0.00 CQ DF2JP JO31 =20 1842 10 -21 -0.1 1450.94 0.00 CQ DF2JP JO31 =20 1846 10 -19 -0.1 1450.94 0.00 CQ DF2JP JO31 =20 1850 10 -21 0.0 1450.94 0.00 CQ DF2JP JO31 =20 1854 10 -21 0.0 1450.94 0.00 CQ DF2JP JO31 =20 1858 10 -21 -0.1 1450.94 0.00 CQ DF2JP JO31 =20 1902 4 -26 0.4 1430.35 0.00 DK7FC TEST 5W =20 Despite the fact that DK7FC produces a much stronger trace DF2JP gets = better decodes. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens wolf_dl4yhf = [dl4yhf@freenet.de] Verzonden: zondag 28 oktober 2012 20:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: no decodes, help needed Am 28.10.2012 19:59, schrieb wolf_dl4yhf: Still many more decodes from DK7FC, even though stronger, than from = DF2JP. Excuses, that should have read: ... less decodes from DK7FC, even through stronger than DF2JP.. Actually, now each of DF2JP's overs is decoded, but (almost) none from = Stefan even though his signal is still stronger in JO42 . 73, Wolf DL4YHF . ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01CDB54F.EE614B90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Joe, LF,
 
thanks for all this work!
 
DK7FC was still decoding sporadically here, but DF2JP not at all = this=20 evening, though I could clearly see the two traces side by side. = Looks like there is always only one decode per = time=20 slot?
 
To possibly aid debugging, I have = uploaded six wavs=20 to
http://df6nm.b= placed.net/wsjt/jt9-2_df6nm_121028/
along with a text log indicating = successful and=20 failed decodes. "Dial frequency" of my grabber RX is fixed at 135.5 kHz, = and the=20 decoder was centered on 1930 Hz.  
 
Unlike WSPR, the nominal frequency = appears to=20 be not the center but the lower edge of the transmitted band. This = is=20 also apparent in the screenshot in the quickstart guide. =
 
For some reason, at the end of each = transmission=20 there occurs a short "burp", consisting of a two tone burst = approximately +- 23=20 Hz from the nominal frequency.
 
Best 73
Markus (DF6NM)

 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:16 PM
Subject: RE: LF: no decodes, help needed

Wolf, Stefan, all,

 

that's what=20 I got here:

 

1750   8  = -23  =20 0.4 1430.59  0.00   DK7FC=20 TEST 5W        =20
1754   6  -24   0.4 1430.59 =20 0.00   DK7FC=20 TEST 5W        =20
1758   7  -24   0.4 1430.43 =20 0.00   DK7FC=20 TEST 5W        =20
1810   8  -23   0.4 1430.59 =20 0.00   DK7FC=20 TEST 5W        =20
1814  10  -23   0.4 1430.35 =20 0.00   DK7FC=20 TEST 5W        =20
1822   5  -25   0.4 1430.43 =20 0.00   DK7FC=20 TEST 5W        =20
1826  10  -21  -0.1 1450.94 =20 0.00   CQ DF2JP JO31 &= nbsp;      =20
1830  10  -21  -0.1 1450.94 =20 0.00   CQ DF2JP JO31 &= nbsp;      =20
1834  10  -20   0.1 1450.94 =20 0.00   CQ DF2JP JO31 &= nbsp;      =20
1838  10  -19   0.0 1450.94 =20 0.00   CQ DF2JP JO31 &= nbsp;      =20
1842  10  -21  -0.1 1450.94 =20 0.00   CQ DF2JP JO31 &= nbsp;      =20
1846  10  -19  -0.1 1450.94 =20 0.00   CQ DF2JP JO31 &= nbsp;      =20
1850  10  -21   0.0 1450.94 =20 0.00   CQ DF2JP JO31 &= nbsp;      =20
1854  10  -21   0.0 1450.94 =20 0.00   CQ DF2JP JO31 &= nbsp;      =20
1858  10  -21  -0.1 1450.94 =20 0.00   CQ DF2JP JO31 &= nbsp;      =20
1902   4  -26   0.4 1430.35 =20 0.00   DK7FC=20 TEST 5W       =  =20

Despite the fact that D= K7FC produces=20 a much stronger trace DF2JP gets better=20 decodes.

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - = OR7T

 

Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens wolf_dl4yhf=20 [dl4yhf@freenet.de]
Verzonden: zondag 28 oktober 2012=20 20:06
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: = Re: LF: no=20 decodes, help needed

Am 28.10.2012 19:59, schrieb = wolf_dl4yhf:
Still many more decodes from DK7FC, even = though=20 stronger, than from DF2JP.

Excuses, that should = have=20 read:
... less decodes from DK7FC, even through stronger than=20 DF2JP..

Actually, now each of DF2JP's overs is decoded, but = (almost) none=20 from Stefan even though his signal is still stronger in JO42 = .


73, Wolf  DL4YHF=20 .


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