Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tB7HOld2030484 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 18:24:48 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1a5zR0-0001uI-39 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:18:46 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1a5zQz-0001u9-D1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:18:45 +0000 Received: from smtpout3.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.59] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a5zPz-00063F-Jk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:18:44 +0000 Received: from AGB ([95.150.81.33]) by mwinf5d44 with ME id qhHQ1r00K0j7wPz03hHQ0t; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:17:28 +0100 X-ME-Helo: AGB X-ME-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:17:28 +0100 X-ME-IP: 95.150.81.33 Message-ID: <1C0C41C37F8A4EF089126C3C50AC2931@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2C3DAD@servigilant.vigilant.local> ,<2B552D4DD80946C3B2B68535E32EA1D9@AGB> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2C46C7@servigilant.vigilant.local> <8C630EE266F040438E3B2494C3111014@AGB>, <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2C4A27@servigilant.vigilant.local>, <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2C4CB1@servigilant.vigilant.local>, <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2C67CE@servigilant.vigilant.local>,<0FB971B760D84B24B65C8B28BC4B4CC1@AGB> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2C6859@servigilant.vigilant.local>, <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2C6BA9@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2C6BA9@servigilant.vigilant.local> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:17:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Scan-Signature: 8aa488450510e9e732308f90e37f9f43 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5644 Ok Luis , Are you running op32/477 tonight ? many of the stations had not changed over .. -41 Db dynamic spot, your still running TOO much power, need to drop -6 dB to test OP32 Dynamic to the limit :) But may be tonight, leave the power and , If UK stations select op32 , may get a DX spot ? Nice going ! 73-G, -------------------------------------------------- From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 9:36 AM To: Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment > Hi Graham, MF > > 1mW on MF antenna. Ultimate QRPPP TEST PASSED !! > > Opera 32 proved better gain and I have got 3 spots from Iban EB3FRN > tonight > > 03:49 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 Deep Search 297 km -41 dB in MONTBRIO > 1527.8 Hz > 03:44 136 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op32 0 km -8 dB F:0% in OP32 mode over > 477KHz 1523,9 Hz > 03:16 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 Deep Search 297 km -42 dB in MONTBRIO > 1527.8 Hz > 03:12 136 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op32 0 km -8 dB F:0% in OP32 mode over > 477KHz 1523,9 Hz > > 01:38 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 Deep Search 297 km -42 dB in MONTBRIO > 1528.0 Hz > 01:34 136 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op32 0 km -8 dB F:1% in OP32 mode over > 477KHz 1524,0 Hz > > Transmissions were on 477 not 136KHz. Deep serach spots matched with my > own spots on my > monitor at 7Km > > The only remaining question is .....which was the ERP ??? :-O > > 73 de Luis > EA5DOM > ________________________________________ > De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham > [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] > Enviado: domingo, 6 de diciembre de 2015 23:03 > Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment > > That was quick Luis ! > > Your in the deep list on 136 , so that helps ! , may of been a bit > late tonight , but see who qsy's - > > can send out all user using the chat as well , > > 73-G, > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 9:49 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment > >> Hi Graham. Good idea ! :-) >> >> But probably lack of Rx stations >> >> I'm already transmitting OP32 over 477 dial USB. Continous periods and no >> WSPR >> >> Let's gain those 10dB ! ;-) >> >> 73 de Luis >> EA5DOM >> ________________________________________ >> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >> Enviado: domingo, 6 de diciembre de 2015 22:27 >> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >> >> Ok Luis , >> >> Yes, using G8HUH as the reference , 0dBm was going to be more chance >> than expectation ... Very long skip at the moment. >> >> Could try, dropping down to OP32 ??? >> >> Same dial set , that would put another +10 db in the cct % fade has >> shown, should be able to 'view' at least 40% of the Tx along the >> time >> line...Sets are now quite stable , well inside the 1 or 2 Hz drift >> >> Would need a few emails to set the Rx group up ..as decodes will >> show >> as 136 >> >> 73-G, >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" >> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 8:59 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >> >>> Hi Graham, MF >>> >>> It has been a great difference from 5mW to 1mW. May be the limit to get >>> just an occasional decode >>> in Opera Deel Search by close stations as EB3FRN just be around 3mW on >>> antenna >>> >>> I don't have the right attenuator at hand right now, so will keep at 1mW >>> tonight >>> Conditions looks good. Lot of activity in WSPR and long Dx across north >>> atlantic and to Reunion >>> >>> Good luck to the chasers ! ;-) >>> >>> 73 de Luis >>> EA5DOM >>> ________________________________________ >>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >>> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >>> Enviado: domingo, 6 de diciembre de 2015 17:25 >>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>> >>> 1 mW Test still running >>> >>> 16:22 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi -9 dB F:1%_End in Albir 1519,0 Hz >>> with 1mw + Vert 11+80m >>> >>> G, >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" >>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 6:11 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>> >>>> Hi Graham, MF >>>> >>>> Running 1mW to antenna at the moment. Measured 0,228V RMS over 50Ohm >>>> A 20dB attenuator from U3 to antenna >>>> >>>> Reports on WSPR dropped to -4dB on my monitor >>>> >>>> Opera reports from -3dB went to -8dB. So will be very unlike to recive >>>> even Deep Search reports >>>> Can't modify the Tx QRG so often, so will be fixed and let see what >>>> happens >>>> >>>> Good luck >>>> >>>> 73 de Luis >>>> EA5DOM >>>> _____________________________________ >>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >>>> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >>>> Enviado: sábado, 5 de diciembre de 2015 14:51 >>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>> >>>> Yes Luis , >>>> >>>> Its amazing how coherent random chance can be ! >>>> >>>> Watched with interest last night, had to drop the wires at 0100 when >>>> the >>>> storm blew in, it was from the SW which is 'ok' for me , W is the >>>> killer, but better to take the weight off the system, the top >>>> loading >>>> coil adds to the drag , though in saying that , its amazing how >>>> much >>>> windage the 2 inch tube collects ! >>>> >>>> Try the final run at 0dB , if the conditions hold or pick up , >>>> G8HUH >>>> might catch you , but a this level , its all in the lap of >>>> Gods >>>> , >>>> or Laurence's Pesky Protons , you have to achieve 40% of the >>>> transmission, the average being = minimum detection set level, at >>>> the >>>> application. >>>> >>>> Don't forget , Opera decodes , Dynamic detects , >>>> >>>> The local off air decode is working well , you could jump the >>>> frequency >>>> [ 5 or 10 Hz] at every tx/rx change over , The system is 'single >>>> pass' >>>> , that may or may not , add or subtract from the final results, >>>> depending if qrm is +/- on the new qrg . The frequency is only >>>> for >>>> cross checking , plays no part in the detection or validation. The >>>> system will validate against your local time stamp, with frequency >>>> available as well as reference. >>>> >>>> Traffic is low , so that might give you a edge ? >>>> >>>> GL for tonight >>>> 73-Graham. >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 9:41 AM >>>> To: >>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>> >>>>> Real dynamic decoces Graham. Perfect synchroniztion and frequency >>>>> measurement :-) >>>>> >>>>> At least 7 Opera decodes from Iban EB3FRN, like the last one right now >>>>> in >>>>> "crude" daylight >>>>> 09:35 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search 297 km -36 dB in >>>>> MONTBRIO >>>>> 1522.9 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m >>>>> >>>>> Two more Opera decodes from G8HUH, before midnight >>>>> 22:23 477 EA5DOM de G8HUH Op8 Deep Search 1430 km -36 dB in >>>>> Somerset >>>>> 1520.8 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m >>>>> 20:11 477 EA5DOM de G8HUH Op8 Deep Search 1430 km -35 dB in >>>>> Somerset >>>>> 1520.5 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m >>>>> >>>>> And in WSPR the only decodes were from Maxi, EA5CV at 60Km from -28 >>>>> to -30dB >>>>> >>>>> What's next ?? Down another 3dB or directly to 0dBm ?? :-O >>>>> >>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>> EA5DOM >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >>>>> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >>>>> Enviado: sábado, 5 de diciembre de 2015 1:23 >>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>> >>>>> One more , may of clashed as well Luis ? >>>>> >>>>> 22:23 477 EA5DOM de G8HUH Op8 Deep Search 889 mi -36 dB in Somerset >>>>> 1520.8 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m >>>>> 22:22 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi -4 dB F:1%_End in Albir 1519,0 >>>>> Hz >>>>> with 5mw + Vert 11+80m >>>>> >>>>> G, >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "Graham" >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 10:02 PM >>>>> To: >>>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>> >>>>>> Ok Luis , >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes , both of these are missing the '??' so the Job's a good-un >>>>>> as >>>>>> they say NE of this location : ) >>>>>> Band seems to be in good condition tonight >>>>>> >>>>>> G3XKR is now running the latest version , so that gives you >>>>>> another 5/6 dB gain ) >>>>>> >>>>>> 73-G, >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" >>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 9:21 PM >>>>>> To: >>>>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Graham, MF >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hard to believe, but true ! :-O >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Iban EB3FRN and G8HUH spotting me on Opera Deep Search with only 5mW >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> antenna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Specially G8HUH at 1430Km, just one minute after my own spot on >>>>>>> monitor >>>>>>> due to Deep Search delay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 20:11 477 EA5DOM de G8HUH Op8 Deep Search 1430 km -35 dB in >>>>>>> Somerset >>>>>>> 1520.5 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m >>>>>>> 20:10 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km -5 dB F:1%_End in Albir >>>>>>> 1519,0 >>>>>>> Hz >>>>>>> with 5mw + Vert 11+80m >>>>>>> >>>>>>> G3XKR is also in the party. Let's see if he can spot me too >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >>>>>>> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >>>>>>> Enviado: viernes, 4 de diciembre de 2015 21:27 >>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Better ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 20:11 477 EA5DOM de G8HUH Op8 Deep Search 889 mi -35 dB in >>>>>>> Somerset >>>>>>> 1520.5 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> From: "Graham" >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 7:43 PM >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good start Luis .. There is a path to night ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 73-G, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 19:35 477 G8HUH de EA5DOM Op8 889 mi -23 dB F:20% in Albir >>>>>>>> 1459,0 >>>>>>>> Hz >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 19:35 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search 185 mi -36 dB in >>>>>>>> MONTBRIO >>>>>>>> 1523.2 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 10:20 AM >>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Done >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Added another 3dB atenuator to the already in use 10dB >>>>>>>>> From the 20dBm output of U3 to 520mV over 50Ohm -> 5mW to the >>>>>>>>> antenna >>>>>>>>> (NOT ERP) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Power message changed in WSPR and Opera >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Reports down 1 to 2dB in my monitor. We are really on the "dummy >>>>>>>>> limit" >>>>>>>>> right now >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PS: The level of power were a MF antenna radiates as good as a >>>>>>>>> dummy >>>>>>>>> load >>>>>>>>> ;-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Mensaje original----- >>>>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de VIGILANT >>>>>>>>> Luis >>>>>>>>> Fernández >>>>>>>>> Enviado el: viernes, 04 de diciembre de 2015 9:00 >>>>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Graham, MF >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That was just when I went to bed ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -36dB Dynamic decode in Opera. But there was also a G8HUH decode >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> WSPR >>>>>>>>> with an amazing -17dB !! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2015-12-04 02:12 EA5DOM 0.475609 -17 0 IM98wn 0.01 G8HUH IO81mg >>>>>>>>> 1430 >>>>>>>>> 352 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Single spot from Maxi, EA5CV at 60Km >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2015-12-04 06:24 EA5DOM 0.475612 -31 0 IM98wn 0.01 EA5CV IM98ol 59 >>>>>>>>> 261 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm going to add 3dB attenuation. Let's see if it is possible with >>>>>>>>> 5mW >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> antenna (not 5mW ERP) ;-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >>>>>>>>> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >>>>>>>>> Enviado: viernes, 4 de diciembre de 2015 1:17 >>>>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Luis .. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 22:47 477 EA5DOM de G8HUH Op8 Deep Search 889 mi -36 dB in >>>>>>>>> Somerset >>>>>>>>> 1520.8 Hz with 0.01w + Vert 11+80m >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> G, >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 8:40 AM >>>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Graham, MF >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Much worse conditions last night. I even checked the RMS voltage >>>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>>> 50R load to see if the attenuator was not working correctly, but >>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>> were the 11mW >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Only two WSPR spots from Andy at limit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-02 23:24 EA5DOM 0.475610 -32 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht >>>>>>>>>> 919 >>>>>>>>>> 4 >>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-02 21:24 EA5DOM 0.475610 -30 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht >>>>>>>>>> 919 >>>>>>>>>> 4 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I saw the report from G3XKR on PskReporter but nothing via Opera >>>>>>>>>> server Probably due to the old software version used by G3XKR ?? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anyway VERY good Rx there ! :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Will keep at 11mW for the moment >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Mensaje original----- >>>>>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Graham >>>>>>>>>> Enviado el: jueves, 03 de diciembre de 2015 1:12 >>>>>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rx at Wed, 02 Dec 2015 21:46:11 GMT >>>>>>>>>> From EA5DOM by G3XKR Loc IO70UX >>>>>>>>>> Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -31dB >>>>>>>>>> Distance: 1418 km bearing 348° >>>>>>>>>> Using: Opera v1.5.4/Rptr V1.6 >>>>>>>>>> Antenna: RX Op8 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> V 1-5-4 pre dynamic ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 73-G, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Tony Baldwin" >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:25 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm on 477 opera as well as 474.2 WSPR I shall leave it >>>>>>>>>>> monitoring >>>>>>>>>>> both all night 73, Tony, EI8JK >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 02-Dec-15 19:08, Graham wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Still big signals Luis ! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We know from the Vampire tests , what should happen, but , >>>>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>> accurate way of telling who is actually running Rx on 477 >>>>>>>>>>>> now, >>>>>>>>>>>> since the psk-map changed the housekeeping routines ... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Im Rx 477 at the moment , only see your local decode's >>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> moment >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 73-G, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:51 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No more DX last night at 11mW >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> One spot from F5WK and many more from Andy F1AFJ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxi, EA5CV got a few at -28dB and being just 60Km away but >>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> sub optimal Rx No other EA station got copy >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No Opera spots. Monitors were too far, probably >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There were few TA spots across north atlantic. So, conditions >>>>>>>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>>>>>>> not bad Will keep Txing at this power level untill finishing >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> PA >>>>>>>>>>>>> install at terrace >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>>>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luis >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fernández [luis@vigilant.es] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 23:11 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wellcome to the 11mW challenge, Clemens :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> F5WK joined the party with just one spot but breaking the >>>>>>>>>>>>> distance >>>>>>>>>>>>> mark to 1192km >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-01 20:24 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 >>>>>>>>>>>>> IM98wn >>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.01 F5WK IN99ef 1192 355 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy has 8 spots so far. And one as good as -20dB !! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-01 21:36 EA5DOM 0.475610 -20 0 >>>>>>>>>>>>> IM98wn >>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht 919 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You are at 1515Km. A real edge for such a weak signal ?? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>>>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Clemens Paul >>>>>>>>>>>>> [cpaul@gmx.net] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 22:54 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> Asunto: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Luis, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if there is al least 1mW ERP out ! Still a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> room >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Opera Deep Search spots >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any other taker ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll give it a try tonight. >>>>>>>>>>>>> RX and WSPR are running now. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I know I can compete with DH5RAE and DJ0ABR regarding WSPR >>>>>>>>>>>>> spots >>>>>>>>>>>>> (RX-wise). >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm also quite out in the sticks... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Clemens >>>>>>>>>>>>> DL4RAJ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VIGILANT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luis Fernández >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:17 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. We have a winner >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations Andy ! Fantastic spots -25dB using only 11mW >>>>>>>>>>>>>> here >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-01 19:36 EA5DOM 0.475610 -25 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 919 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-01 19:24 EA5DOM 0.475610 -25 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 919 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if there is al least 1mW ERP out ! Still a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> room >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Opera Deep Search spots >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any other taker ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fernández [luis@vigilant.es] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 16:23 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK Graham, there we are ! ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0,742V RMS over 50Ohm. That's 11mW >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can see 1dB down in my WSPR monitor at 7Km. Reports from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EA5CV >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which were about -25dB are nill now >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really challenging for me and for RX stations. Probably will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>>>>>> some spots from EA5CV and EA2HB during the night, but for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >1000Km >>>>>>>>>>>>>> paths it will be very hard, depending on propagation >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conditions >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and noise floor >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WSPR power message set to 10dBm and Opera info changed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0,01w >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make your bet ! ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 14:26 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Getting there Luis ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your 6 dB in hand with G3XKR , may be more with G8HUH , >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go for the big 1-0 TEN mW , the stats are not good >>>>>>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need to get a peak aligned with the qsb , but with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8% >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fade , but, signal must be holding up ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73-G, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:23 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi MF >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet some remarkable results with 51mW. May be propagation >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conditions lowered extra dBs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, in Opera got a -30dB decode from G3XKR and Deep >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Search >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -37dB from SV8CS-5 at 1819Km >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00:34 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +0 dB F:1%_End in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Albir >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1519,0 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00:34 477 EA5DOM de G3XKR Op8 -30 dB F:8% in BIDEFORD >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Devon >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:47 477 EA5DOM de SV8CS-5 Op8 Deep Search 1819 km -37 dB >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Zakynthos 1519.5 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:46 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +1 dB F:2% in Albir >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1519,0 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In WSPR best distance and SNR spots from: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-01 03:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -27 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 DH5RAE JN68qv >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1576 39 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-11-30 22:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -29 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 DJ0ABR JN68nt >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1556 39 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-12-01 03:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 G3XKR IO70ux >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1419 348 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-11-30 23:12 EA5DOM 0.475608 -22 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 F5WK IN99ef 1192 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 355 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should I get down another 3dB to 25mW and still spotted by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> F5WK >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-O >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations to all this stations for their superb RX ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fernández [luis@vigilant.es] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 21:03 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's go step by step >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3db down now: 1,60V RMS 51mW >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same signals on my monitor and some drop on F5WK and EA5CV >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reports >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 19:14 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .. May be 10 dB at least ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> G, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:53 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Graham, MF >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. The efficiency of this antenna setup is really >>>>>>>>>>>>>> outstanding >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-O I can clearly see the signal on my monitor waterfall at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7Km >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when injecting -33dBm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just at sunset between EA and DL I got two WSPR decodes from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DH5RAE and DJ0ABR >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.05 DJ0ABR JN68nt >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1556 39 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475614 -22 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.05 EA5CV IM98ol >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 59 261 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -31 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.05 DH5RAE JN68qv >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1576 39 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have the 3dB atenuator ready to be installed. Will do it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> get home in a couple of hours and will change the WSPR tx >>>>>>>>>>>>>> power >>>>>>>>>>>>>> indicator and Opera info to notice the change >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graham >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 18:13 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's just 'a silly , -18 dB with G8HUH , I thought >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you where running QRP, that's close to 20 dB QRO jiji >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73-G, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From EA5DOM by G8HUH Loc IO81MG >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -18dB >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All OP8 decodes from psk-map >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EA5DOM SO5AS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2210 km 18:10:11 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SV8CS-5 600m >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OPERA 1820 km 18:46:12 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SV8CS EA5DOM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1819 km 19:20:11 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EA5DOM EI8JK >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1633 km 18:46:12 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EA5DOM G8HUH >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1430 km 18:22:12 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EA5DOM G3XKR >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1420 km 23:10:11 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:48 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Tony >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That explains the radical propagation change ! :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for keeping your monitor working >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Tony >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baldwin Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 9:34 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luis, I switched my radio off last night at about 23:30 utc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will leave it running opera all night tonight if you want >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> try >>>>>>>>>>>>>> different power levels again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73, Tony, EI8JK >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >