Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dg01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 50C7038000081; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QwD24-0005Gl-V3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:58:12 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QwD24-0005Gc-6f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:58:12 +0100 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QwD22-0007GL-AQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:58:12 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3516.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7576F1C0009D for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:58:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3516.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 67D8B1C0009E for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:58:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [2.26.17.7]) by mwinf3516.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id C94EF1C0009D for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:58:01 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20110824125801824.C94EF1C0009D@mwinf3516.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <1BF74916A96E46A2BE62312F28937056@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <1314143316.44032.YahooMailClassic@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1314143316.44032.YahooMailClassic@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:58:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110824-0, 24/08/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: FMT Beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01CC6265.D66B7FD0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:511624608:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 2 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41094e54f5b35fa1 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CC6265.D66B7FD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pete,=20 Thats a bit of a xod ! , I was sent a new net-gear modem when the = BB was upgraded to ADSL2 . but that was useless , any band over = 5/10 watts and the link failed .. my previous router was a = edimax, which was fine on all bands, so , brought what looked to be = the adsl2 version .. with a valid FCC stamp , everything back to = normal ..except 80 mtrs .. for some reason 5/10 watts on 80 and = the link fails .. 500 on the other hand, no problem even with the = new 'dopple ganger pa' running round 450 watts on 500 , the web = link is fine and can decode via the delft web-sdr during the day. = I think 80 is just a combination of unfortunate lengths and = resonances ,after re-arranging the end of the top leg, there is a = lot of rf about at the pc on 80 , could just be a floating = feeder .. Will take a look on 136 , see if I can see anything .. G.. From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:48 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: FMT Beacon OK Graham 500 is dead around here I can't use it if I want what BT laughably = calls Broadband because 500 knocks it right out for days owing to the = very slow recovery time of their clapped out DSLAMs. However 136 seems = OK at the current power level which is in the 50W region at the moment. = 138 being the notch between upstream and down stream ADSL spectrum = whereas 500 sits right in the middle of the down stream spectrum and = even a couple of Watts at the input terminals of the ATU completely = flattens it. It is seen as noise on the circuit which automatically = reduces data rate to maintain communication allbeit at a very slow = speed. Trouble is it just doesn't come right back up when the 500 signal = goes off it stays down for days so I complain then they switch it back = up again manually. Even spark transmissions from O/H11kV lines trigger = it. I see DI2AM (505.180+/-) coming in well on Gary's grabber and = Stefan on 136.1725+/- also, so things aren't too bad at the moment. 73 es GN Petefmt IO91UX (abt150miles from you) From: Graham Subject: Re: LF: FMT Beacon To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tuesday, 23 August, 2011, 23:58 Ok Pete ..never had much luck on 137 ..but 500 is well = down at the moment .. G..=20 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:44 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: FMT Beacon Graham I will try to be QRV tomorrow on 137.696+/-. 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX47VN --- On Tue, 23/8/11, Graham = wrote: From: Graham Subject: Re: LF: FMT Beacon To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tuesday, 23 August, 2011, 23:02 Pete / Jim What QRG ? G..=20 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:07 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: FMT Beacon Thanks for the report Jim Have raise the antenna by 1.5m. But not as good = into G4wgt as I was a few months ago. Could be conditions? QRT now. 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX47VN --- On Tue, 23/8/11, James Moritz = wrote: From: James Moritz = Subject: LF: FMT Beacon To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tuesday, 23 August, 2011, 18:04 Dear Pete, LF Group, Your (M0)FMT QRSS beacon was "O" copy about = 5uV/m here near Hatfield at about 1630utc. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CC6265.D66B7FD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pete,
 
Thats a  bit of a xod ! ,  I = was =20 sent a  new net-gear modem  when the  BB  was = upgraded=20 to  ADSL2 . but that   was useless , any  band=20 over   5/10   watts  and the  = link  =20 failed .. my  previous router  was a  edimax, =20 which  was fine  on all bands, so , brought  what  = looked to=20 be the  adsl2  version  .. with a  valid  = FCC =20 stamp , everything  back  to  normal ..except   = 80  mtrs .. for  some  reason 5/10 watts  on = 80  and=20 the  link  fails .. 500  on the  other hand, = no =20 problem  even  with the  new  'dopple ganger = pa' =20 running  round  450 watts on 500  , the  web link = is =20 fine and can  decode  via the  delft  web-sdr  = during=20 the  day.
 
I think   80  is  = just a =20 combination  of unfortunate  lengths  and  = resonances=20 ,after  re-arranging  the  end of the  top  = leg,=20  there  is a  lot of  rf  about at the  = pc =20  on 80 , could  just  be a  floating  feeder=20 ..
 
Will take a  look  on 136 , = see =20 if  I can  see  anything ..
 
G..

From: M0FMT
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:48 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: FMT Beacon

OK Graham
 
500 is dead around here I can't use it if I want what = BT=20 laughably calls Broadband because 500 knocks it right out for days = owing=20 to the very slow recovery time of their clapped out = DSLAMs. However=20 136 seems OK at the current power level which is in the 50W = region at=20 the moment. 138 being the notch between upstream and down stream = ADSL=20 spectrum whereas 500 sits right in the middle of the down stream = spectrum=20 and even a couple of Watts at the input terminals of the ATU = completely=20 flattens it. It is seen as noise on the circuit which = automatically=20 reduces data rate to maintain communication allbeit at a very slow = speed.=20 Trouble is it just doesn't come right back up when the 500 signal = goes off=20 it stays down for days so I complain then they switch it back = up=20 again manually. Even spark transmissions from O/H11kV = lines trigger=20 it.
 
I see DI2AM (505.180+/-) coming in well on Gary's = grabber and=20 Stefan on 136.1725+/- also, so things aren't too bad at the = moment.
 
73 es GN Petefmt IO91UX (abt150miles from you)

From: = Graham=20 <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: LF: = FMT=20 Beacon
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tuesday, 23 = August,=20 2011, 23:58

Ok Pete ..never had much  = luck=20 on  137 ..but   500  is well  = down  at=20 the  moment ..
 
G..

From: M0FMT=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: LF: FMT Beacon

Graham
 
I will try to be QRV tomorrow on = 137.696+/-.

73=20 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX47VN

--- On Tue, 23/8/11, = Graham=20 <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>= ;=20 wrote:

From:=20 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>= ;
Subject:=20 Re: LF: FMT Beacon
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Date:=20 Tuesday, 23 August, 2011, 23:02

Pete / Jim
 
What   QRG = ?
 
G..

From: M0FMT
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: LF: FMT = Beacon

Thanks for the report Jim
 
Have raise the antenna by 1.5m. But not as = good into=20 G4wgt as I was a few months ago. Could be = conditions? QRT=20 now.

73 es GL Pete M0FMT = IO91UX47VN

--- On=20 Tue, 23/8/11, James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>=20 wrote:

From:=20 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
Subject:=20 LF: FMT Beacon
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date:=20 Tuesday, 23 August, 2011, 18:04

Dear Pete, = LF=20 Group,

Your (M0)FMT QRSS beacon was "O" = copy=20 about 5uV/m here near Hatfield at about=20 1630utc.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de=20 = M0BMU






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