Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6204 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 23:19:15 +0100 Received: from purple.force9.net (195.166.128.228) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 23:19:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 4527 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 22:18:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by purple.force9.net with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 22:18:46 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11JOjW-0007qT-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:07:58 +0100 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au ([203.26.10.9]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11JOjO-0007qL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:07:54 +0100 Received: from steve (d164.syd2.zeta.org.au [203.26.9.36]) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA12994 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:07:28 +1000 Message-ID: <199908242207.IAA12994@godzilla.zeta.org.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "Steve Olney" To: "RSGB LF Group" Subject: LF: Multiple Tuned Vertical Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:09:32 +1000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: G'day All, Here is my two cents worth... I think that there is not a great deal to be gained from using multiple-tuned verticals. The reason I think that is that if you look at the aim of improving our short vertical antennas, we see that we are trying to improve the ratio of radiated power versus applied power. We tend to concentrate on radiation resistance alone, when it is the ratio of radiation resistance to losses which determines how much goes into ether and how much warms up the local environment. Radiation resistance is an entirely ficticious resistance which is evaluated by analysing the impedance at the feed point. Change the feedpoint and you can change the radiation resistance. The notion that there is some inherent radiation resistance for a particular antenna configuration (say 75 ohm for a 1/2 wave dipole) is a mathematical one and arises out of the practice that by convention and convenience the analysis is carried out using a feedpoint where the current is maximum. Radiation resistance is then actually the lowest value of the radiating part of the feedpoint impedance possible. The change in radiation resistance with feedpoint is viewed by some as simply a transformer action. A good explanation except you can not 'transform' the radiation resistance of a given radiating structure to a lower value, only higher. However, transformer action remains a good way of viewing the situation. Where does this leave the multiple-tuned vertical? Well, I think that indeed the radiation resistance will be transformed up as a ratio N * N, and you will need larger coils to resonate each leg, and so on. The fly in the ointment as far as I can see is that while the currents in each leg are reduced, any losses (earth, coil, etc) as seen from the feedpoint are also multiplied up by N * N. So my guess is what you gain on the roundabout (increased apparent radiation resistance) is lost on the swings (increased apparent losses). That is, the ratio of radiation resistance to total losses remains largely the same. So why do commercial installations use the configuration? I suspect it has more to do with the GIGANTIC powers they use and the difficulty of making a single earth connection carry all the current at those powers. By using the multiple-tuned vertical the currents are split and so are reduced at each individual earth point. The above has been seen to be the case using antenna analysis software. Initially I had a great rush of excitement when I saw a 0.01 ohm radiation resistance increased to 1 ohm using ten radiators, but this quickly subsided when I introduced a series loss resistance with each coil and saw that that loss was multiplied by the same factor :-( In conclusion I feel that there might be something to be gained (not a great deal), but also there may be some other factor not accounted for which may produce better results than expected from the above. After all, we are experimenters and are not totally bound by theory, but only imagination :-) 73s Steve Olney (VK2ZTO/AXSO - QF56IK : Lat -33 34 07, Long +150 44 40) ============================================= LowFer URL: http://www.zeta.org.au/~ollaneg/lowfer.htm AXSO Experimental Station URL: http://www.zeta.org.au/~ollaneg/axsoextx.htm LF Receiving - FRG-100 LF Transmitting - 177.5kHz 8W to 7.6m top-loaded vertical Modes - AM, SSB, PSK31, SSTV, Hellschreiber and QRSS =============================================