Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11348 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 15:02:19 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 15:02:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 16398 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 14:05:31 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 14:05:31 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11CkQ2-0007We-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Aug 1999 14:52:22 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.interalpha.co.uk ([195.26.224.18] helo=post.interalpha.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11CkPy-0007WZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Aug 1999 14:52:19 +0100 Received: from th-mod01.interalpha.net (th-mod01.interalpha.net [195.26.228.192]) by post.interalpha.net (8.8.7/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA30093 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 14:59:02 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 14:59:02 +0100 Message-ID: <199908061359.OAA30093@post.interalpha.net> X-Sender: drassew2@post.interalpha.co.uk (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: drassew2@interalpha.co.uk Subject: LF: GBR at 16kHz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sender: In a previous EMail, Rik Strobe stated that the frequency of the GBR transmission had moved from 16kHz to 15.75kHz. This figure was in error. The actual frequency is centred on 15.98 kHz ie 20 Hz low. I spoke to the group of people responsible for this transmission and they confirmed that is was moved slightly from 16kHz a few years ago when the transmission changed from FSK modulation to MSK. The 16kHz had referred to one of the two FSK tone frequencies and the designated frequency was changed to centre the energy of the new signal in the old nominated passband. The characteristics of the signal are are: 300 baud Minimum Shift Keying (MSK) at 15.980 kHz. This can be seen by using Spectrogram with 16K FFT and averaging set to 100. The MSK produces a wide Gaussian shaped main lobe, approximately 100 Hz wide at the 3dB points, with deep nulls at +/- 150Hz. It is these null that allow the signals precise frequency to be measured as they are exactly symmetrical about the centre. Unfortunately, the absence of a carrier component, coupled with the wide main lobe, precludes the long term phase monitoring I had intended to do by mixing down to zero frequency then storing I/Q values at a 4Hz sampling rate. The various time transmissions at 60 - 77.5kHz remain the best signals on which to demonstrate the Doppler shifts at dawn and dusk. It would be possible to use the GBR signal but would involve de-spreading the MSK code - not a trivial task. Pure amplitude measurements are of course still valid by taking the whole signal in its 200 Hz bandwidth Andy G4JNT