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[82.70.254.222]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u127sm629747wmd.30.2018.04.09.04.49.32 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Apr 2018 04:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 12:49:31 +0100 From: Chris Wilson X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <197556217.20180409124931@gmail.com> To: N1BUG CC: N1BUG In-Reply-To: <3a0c0669-018b-13a7-b56b-dd3f63fab464@n1bug.com> References: <162a4797468-1db9-bdf2@webjas-vae168.srv.aolmail.net> <1UQROqZht1.1c1VdzC0S69@optiplex980-pc> <3a0c0669-018b-13a7-b56b-dd3f63fab464@n1bug.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Paul, If my similar amp exhibits ringing on the drains (which I monitor in real time), it means an antenna mismatch or a dicky connection (PL type plugs were the cause, cheap junk off Ebay, a change to branded N types fixed that issue). So if the output transformers are the right material and wound right, the snubber resistors and caps are correct, and the gate driver wires are really short, and you are looking into a decent dummy load, well, it's a mystery! You have put decoupling caps on all the Vcc pins? If you have a nice PCB and don't want to make new, and the IC's are socketed you could solder the decoupling caps direct to the IC pins for a test. Or even if they aren't socketed I guess :) Without them my amp suffered with RF getting back into stuff and "funny things" happened. You should also have a `scope about on the PSU side of the choke. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dead.fets[at]gmail.com) 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 1708620d3ce65bee0beaaede7929769a Subject: Re: LF: W1VD amp help - more waveforms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Paul, If my similar amp exhibits ringing on the drains (which I monitor in real time), it means an antenna mismatch or a dicky connection (PL type plugs were the cause, cheap junk off Ebay, a change to branded N types fixed that issue). So if the output transformers are the right material and wound right, the snubber resistors and caps are correct, and the gate driver wires are really short, and you are looking into a decent dummy load, well, it's a mystery! You have put decoupling caps on all the Vcc pins? If you have a nice PCB and don't want to make new, and the IC's are socketed you could solder the decoupling caps direct to the IC pins for a test. Or even if they aren't socketed I guess :) Without them my amp suffered with RF getting back into stuff and "funny things" happened. You should also have a `scope about on the PSU side of the choke. Monday, April 9, 2018, 12:29:18 PM, you wrote: > Thanks Hugh and everyone else who commented and provided tips on my > earlier post about this amplifier. > I will wait for Jay to have a chance to comment but I *think* I'm OK > on timing of the phase transitions. However, something is causing > major ringing (is that the correct term?) on the drains. I believe I > need to find the cause and do something about that but I have no > idea what to look at. > I've been building and even designing QRO amplifiers for 35 years > but I'm a vacuum tube HF/VHF/UHF guy! This FET class D/E stuff is > all new to me and I don't learn new tricks as easily as I once did. :) > Paul -- Best regards, Chris mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com