Return-Path: Received: from mtain-db10.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-db10.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.94]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMB032-a21d4ca1068549; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:03:01 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-db10.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 55527380001D5; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:03:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1P0KpF-0006NO-03 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:01:29 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1P0Kp4-0006NF-LT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:01:18 +0100 Received: from smtp819.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.248]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P0Kp4-00016T-7v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:01:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 44454 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2010 20:00:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ogdMN5f6Pe8oRR4SUho47bZPh6s8XBlMtV1Ez45BaAp0ol0zk/PxG8vmg6Wdnx6ytIp9gFxD2z/np8cjogwCigIIWMOmJ+uwtb+v921bemRDT6ylkYIzccK+Z9MTX/INmMYVALrG2oypHch4LAg1+iBnrpdaHG+Lc3cvBOVCUsA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1285617611; bh=vZBrXEjGa0eMk245wbdMYs6UkwRMVFMMvtEFEz6kr9E=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=bTjbKf9nm/sW0zZ4Q7NTR4eBu4nKynVfqcjhxCbh/Bu0Mf2CpHPmO5sqvfVdHAkUiUxW15GrEsNHdAqHv4mPfJ2dyiE5AySrE4Tb9s6D8jj7w0Xmy0nmosyLdZX73u+ppmjMbjB1EU/uhBKjL/vhDAc2aaplgP3/eOD46jEsE/I= Received: from JimPC (james.moritz@86.174.31.94 with login) by smtp819.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2010 20:00:10 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cxhli3eswBD1ozmtAojhjrja86kWx0Qm9tycD5QR1DKWrOLgjJcXkw-- X-YMail-OSG: dLBiUVYVM1kfjrMqxDWrW4Q1q_Bd5FWn_aYbH6FNt8jtH01 fosRbjvrMNZD5Vz4OYSDdlAXZo2fSRln40F02GDW4w2E6RWj39nzwY0dY.a3 pqdWHRo2UXQCK9mRGrHIxKYzyOZpkVaN0yElGxYfgMve47LnG0DWWKLPIPaK Moa1rmuKv0YLWorqXR4TAeVEkhoxAC6UjtW9DnnbKb74HH6xsdTGDeSgmhJb NFyLjWnU0ZoRwXCqaEuTGd_HYOOzG X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <18AC751DD96A43A3B3B271967EDDF8C2@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <1285607600.1755.7.camel@gerhard-desktop> In-Reply-To: <1285607600.1755.7.camel@gerhard-desktop> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:00:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Aliens on LF ! Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m211.2 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d405e4ca106836af7 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dear Gerhard, LF Group, > > Has anybody an explanation for the kind of signals displayed on my > grabber sometimes? > I think quite a few people have seen signals like this - one possibility is switch-mode variable speed drives for AC 3-phase induction motors. The RF is centred on some harmonic of the switching frequency, the spacing of the sidebands depends on the motor speed (i.e. the output frequency of the inverter) ... it would seem quite low in your case. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU