Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, SPF_PASS,SUBJ_RE_NUM autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u3K7ABv8008103 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2016 09:10:13 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1asmC3-0006xg-I8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2016 08:04:59 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1asmBw-0006xX-Dt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2016 08:04:52 +0100 Received: from smarthost01c.mail.zen.net.uk ([212.23.1.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1asmBu-0007En-3I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2016 08:04:51 +0100 Received: from [82.70.254.222] (helo=OfficeWin7.lan) by smarthost01c.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1asmBt-00065g-6d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2016 07:04:49 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 08:04:48 +0100 From: Chris Wilson Organization: Gatesgarth Developments X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <186935535.20160420080448@chriswilson.tv> To: LineOne In-Reply-To: <5716079B.30004@lineone.net> References: <5713E677.6040003@lineone.net> <1071555453.20160418034309@chriswilson.tv> <5716079B.30004@lineone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-smarthost01c-IP: [82.70.254.222] X-Scan-Signature: 086f3faad0220c9ae57a7913e711a86d Subject: Re[2]: LF: Alex (R7NT) reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7792 Good morning Hugh, Tuesday, April 19, 2016 Thanks for the detailed reply, I have some good info to try there, I need to improve my reception, for sure Best regards, Chris 2E0ILY mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv > For LF reception there's no great secret. A decent communications > receiver tuning down to 30kHz combined with a wire aerial broadly (or > sharply) tuned to 136kHz, a correct loading coil should do the same job, > this reduces broadcast signals to more acceptable levels. > The receiver should have no attenuation below (say) 550khz, most of them > have a bandpass filter on the front end, the older ones with a tuned > front end were good but not stable enough. If you can get a circuit of > the front end and re-draw it in a software program such as Tina it will > display the frequency response and allow modifications to be set. I > altered one inductor only. Beware of the remaining stations on Long > Wave, it may require a notch filter, this is where software helps again. > I think many transceivers for Amateur use have very poor, mediocre or > just average receiver response at LF so I'm not sure if a preamplifier > would help unless it's tuned. > A notch filter on the receiver is essential and a good USB filter as > well. It's worth buying extra filters according to the receiver as > supplied. There is some choice but an internet search may help. > Hugh, M0DSZ