Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 104; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SUBJ_RE_NUM autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tAEHu5ZR001853 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 18:56:06 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Zxf07-00064F-Vv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:52:35 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Zxf07-000646-I7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:52:35 +0000 Received: from smarthost03d.mail.zen.net.uk ([212.23.1.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1Zxeyz-00060R-HT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:52:34 +0000 Received: from [82.70.254.222] (helo=OfficeWin7.lan) by smarthost03d.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zxeyj-0007pU-Ey for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:51:09 +0000 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:51:09 +0000 From: Chris Wilson Organization: Gatesgarth Developments X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1672997593.20151114175109@chriswilson.tv> To: Mike Dennison In-Reply-To: <56436DA4.32298.17518D1@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> References: <1886523092.20151110195707@chriswilson.tv>, <564355D2.23956.1180C23@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com>, <921205756.20151111160715@chriswilson.tv> <56436DA4.32298.17518D1@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-smarthost03d-IP: [82.70.254.222] X-Scan-Signature: d7fcd9b75df8d1b09ddef9df028bd9ae Subject: Re[6]: LF: LF receiver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5067 Hello Mike, Wednesday, November 11, 2015 Thanks for the detailed replies everyone, I just grabbed a screen shot of HDSDR showing it in use with my little Japanese receiver and my active whip clone antenna. It's now showing DCF39, and the pointer is on the peak of the carrier. What do you reckon? I have the gain well down now, and it seems a little better. But when i look at what G3XKR receives and the signal levels I know I have a way to go. Anyone know what he is using for reception on LF? http://www.chriswilson.tv/DCF39.jpg I am now experimenting with HDSDR's AGC settings and a medium setting seems quite good. Not tried noise blanking yet, but will do so. I will make some direct comparisons with the TS-590 and the little Jap receiver this coming week and log the results, thanks Mike! > Hmmm. Interesting. You don't show DCF39 (I wrongly called it DCF38 > before) as it is outside your passband. However you show HGA on > 135.42 at 40dB above noise. I see it at 59dB above noise and that > could illustrate your problem. However. the beauty of using HDSDR is > that you can accurately compare before and after settings. We have > different receivers (I use an Afedri SDR) but at face value it looks > like you may have too much RF gain. > If you can adjust the receiver gain, or perhaps attenuate the input, > see how various settings affect the signal/noise on a fixed station > such as HGA. It is not obvious to me (as you are using HDSDR at > audio) but can you apply AGC or noise blanking? If so, compare the > results. > Listen to the audio. Does it sound 'clean'? If not, you may have > noise from out of band products - adjusting the gain should affect > this. Try going back to the E-field antenna - how does the > signal/noise compare? > If none of that helps, perhaps the receiver is simply not up to the > job. So how does your HF transceiver compare? > Mike, G3XDV -- Best regards, Chris 2E0ILY mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv