Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1356; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tA6H8wR1003710 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 18:08:58 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZukSb-0002Qq-RL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 17:05:57 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZukSb-0002Qh-Fj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 17:05:57 +0000 Received: from rgout05.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk ([65.20.0.182]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZukRl-0008GD-01 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 17:05:56 +0000 X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.136.57.57 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: alan.melia@btinternet.com X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A090202.563CDDB1.0175,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=38/50,refid=2.7.2:2015.11.6.154517:17:38.936,ip=86.136.57.57,rules=__HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, MSGID_32HEX_LC, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MSGID_32HEX, __HAS_FROM, __PHISH_FROM2, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_WWW, __URI_NO_PATH, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __FORWARDED_MSG, BODY_SIZE_1100_1199, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, __URI_NS, SXL_IP_DYNAMIC[57.57.136.86.fur], HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, __PHISH_FROM, __OUTLOOK_MUA, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, NO_URI_HTTPS X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown Received: from gnat (86.136.57.57) by rgout05.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (8.6.122.06) (authenticated as alan.melia@btinternet.com) id 563A0A1000440E5D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 17:04:41 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1446829496; bh=laU3MFz+dvxgXinMol6lbzEKqb4QKeQZmDHbVYDzXwk=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:X-Mailer; b=u+y6PEQUhQUgdH+x189cQOjzQsRz4YblcogOIh+0ns0tqWC5LSdwKGzcLkfYL5e45vVslu8PmfIavCRut+r8OXijJsL4Yu4yBoiFmHK/cgo3c4CTGDWEIRF1W7T0oD6Xaph7uwi7KbOlCOTsBnMxM3kRDFTkLphNBNjfW0Q8NTI= Message-ID: <1650B47AB1ED4101AEAA549106E163B6@gnat> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B27E40E@servigilant.vigilant.local>,<563BCC92.7030402@posteo.de> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B27F658@servigilant.vigilant.local> <563BEC40.20409@posteo.de> <1E47139B8DD7469588956FCFFA3EBD9C@gnat> <563CD00C.3060300@posteo.de> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 16:30:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Scan-Signature: f38d515a9cad1e977fcfe251941a8120 Subject: Re: LF: Re: FR5ZX WSPR again Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4846 Hi Stefan ok thanks for that clarification. It is for that reason I rarely use amateur reports for calculations, though the spot data is interesting, as is any data on new long paths. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "DK7FC" To: Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 4:06 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: FR5ZX WSPR again > Hi Alan, > > I was not running a constant TX percentage. It was 20% at the beginning, > then, after the first decodes i switched to 50% and + 3dB, later (as i > went to bed) i went back to normal power and 33%. So the results are not > unter constant parameters. Also we cannot expect constant hardware > arrangements on the RX side i think. Some time he has to try to optimise > things during decodable signals coming in. > Yes, saturday night will be interesting. > > 73, Stefan > > Am 06.11.2015 01:54, schrieb Alan Melia: >> I noticed a set of regular 4min interval decodes then a 16 min blank >> which I presume must have been a fade. Also your best reception was soon >> after the fade I think?? >> >> Fascinating stuff this LF/MF propagation :-)) >