Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINDC033-b2d48d223c53b0; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:48:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC071-b2d48d223c53b0; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:47:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KgG6Q-0005Cz-Mc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:47:10 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KgG6O-0005Cp-TR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:47:09 +0100 Received: from web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.122]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KgG6N-0001gw-Io for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:47:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 9019 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Sep 2008 09:47:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=kqRYfTYQaARi380elVnqQS6jixUW/rai42SSzWGERTiuLi+BNOxL0kEcZh9I0WxujMRDGiB1HvBkFxlNRHBmBl7QkhVCwjSWSIgWSDhiZiZ4t5i86HH1ljwYZxpJUeWuaZDj9Em1EI1ieMW2RyVN4vFra2ieT4YYHfs26lPJ0Tw=; X-YMail-OSG: xpyf13UVM1m6VFp0V7aHCcRQdsECe3G1gzfdDk9Cj0nUsjYl2aPOHxZDFhXToffSYZdysaOtHV_WKP.BJnhdMtQSuamqPKtSqsULEaxQK2FFGFyecQzK7Lqyxgnk07U- Received: from [81.152.21.63] by web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:47:01 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:47:01 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <20080918092604.EA7F331E704@smtps01.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <162634.8943.qm@web28102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: OR7T 579 in IO91UX Loud! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-234178614-1221731221=:8943" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : post.thorcom.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : yahoo.co.uk ; SPF_822_from = n --0-234178614-1221731221=:8943 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rik and LF =C2=A0 You have caught me out on ERP because=C2=A0I don't know it has not been meas= ured=C2=A0but my TX was measured at about 60/70 Watts into a dummy load of 7= 0ohms about 200volts P-P across the load. The ant tuner is currently unknown= impedance but will match into the TX poorly so I hope to raise the ERP late= r with a better match. The ant is a Long wire up 12metres and 40metres long=20= (Horizontal) with an "H"=C2=A0 ground wires. Up wire in centre of "H". Will=20= do some measurements when I get back from break when I hope to work you. And= many thanks for the interest and support. =C2=A0 must go now 73 petefmt..=C2=A0 VA=C2=A0 =C2=A0 --- On Thu, 18/9/08, Rik Strobbe wrote: From: Rik Strobbe Subject: Re: LF: OR7T 579 in IO91UX Loud! To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 18 September, 2008, 10:26 AM Hi Pete, what power / ERP were you running ? When conditions are good (good propagation, low QRN) 10mW ERP should be enou= gh for a basic CW QSO. Yesterday a QRSS QSO was possible, your signal was a solid "O". BTW: last night I was running 270W output power, antenna current 2.15A. The=20= calculated (simulated) radiation resistance is 0.42 Ohm and the antenna "gai= n" 1.4dBd, so my theoretical ERP was about 2.7W (close to the legal limit of= 5W EIRP), but I guess that quite a bit of power is absorbed by the greenery= surrounding the antenna. So the real ERP might be something like 1.5 to 2W=20= ERP. 73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD At 10:37 18/09/2008, you wrote: Hi Rik and LF =C2=A0 Yes I have been running short QRSS sessions with my new higher powered TX so= hopfully it was me. I will be out of the loop for about 7 days but will loo= k out for you when I get back. My CW is poor so it will be rubber stamp if w= e make a contact. I have heard you working G3XIZ in the past he is located a= bout 14km from here. =C2=A0 73 petefmt --- On Wed, 17/9/08, Rik Strobbe wrote: From: Rik Strobbe Subject: Re: LF: OR7T 579 in IO91UX Loud! To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 17 September, 2008, 10:15 PM I saw "FMT" in QRS earlier tonight, was that you ? The signal was very weak audible. QRN was rather bad (and going worse over the evening), with low QRN a=C2=A0=20 QSO should be possible. 73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for more inform= ation.=20 =20 --0-234178614-1221731221=:8943 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Rik and LF
 
You have caught me out on ERP because I don't know it has not been= measured but my TX was measured at about 60/70 Watts into a dummy load= of 70ohms about 200volts P-P across the load. The ant tuner is currently un= known impedance but will match into the TX poorly so I hope to raise the ERP= later with a better match. The ant is a Long wire up 12metres and 40metres=20= long (Horizontal) with an "H"  ground wires. Up wire in centre of "H".=20= Will do some measurements when I get back from break when I hope to work you= . And many thanks for the interest and support.
 
must go now 73 petefmt..  VA 
 

--- On Thu, 18/9/08, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven= .be> wrote:
From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>Subject: Re: LF: OR7T 579 in IO91UX Loud!
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Date: Thursday, 18 September, 2008, 10:26 AM

Hi Pete,

what power / ERP were you running ?<= BR>When conditions are good (good propagation, low QRN) 10mW ERP should be e= nough for a basic CW QSO.
Yesterday a QRSS QSO was possible, your signal=20= was a solid "O".

BTW: last night I was running 270W output power, ant= enna current 2.15A. The calculated (simulated) radiation resistance is 0.42=20= Ohm and the antenna "gain" 1.4dBd, so my theoretical ERP was about 2.7W (clo= se to the legal limit of 5W EIRP), but I guess that quite a bit of power is=20= absorbed by the greenery surrounding the antenna. So the real ERP might be s= omething like 1.5 to 2W ERP.

73, Rik  ON7YD



At 10= :37 18/09/2008, you wrote:
Hi Rik and LF
 
= Yes I have been running short QRSS sessions with my new higher powered TX so= hopfully it was me. I will be out of the loop for about 7 days but will loo= k out for you when I get back. My CW is poor so it will be rubber stamp if w= e make a contact. I have heard you working G3XIZ in the past he is located a= bout 14km from here.
 
73 petefmt

--- On Wed, 17/9/08,=20= Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: LF: OR7T 579 in IO91UX Loud!
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wednesday, 17 September, 2008, 10:15 PM


I saw "FMT" in QRS earlier tonight, was that you ?


The signal was very weak audible.


QRN was rather bad (and going worse over the evening), with low QRN
a =20


QSO should be possible.



73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



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