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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: While congratulating to Joe, Dex and Paul for the achievement :-) I'm getting intrigued from the "tinnitus" mentioned from Markus and Dex. I don't guess is the RF giving this effect but could be simply the coil vibrating like a trasductor trasmitting an audio frequency which although is in the "audible" field is not audible with easy but recordered from the brain. An 8kHz audio frequency could be easily cured with some open cells foam and a thin (say a couple of cm thick) panel around the coil should reduce or delete the effect. Due to the high voltage on the coil my suggestion is to try to use white foam (the black one has some carbon black inside..) and place the panel 10 cm away from the coil: it could also be a sort of weather shield for the coil. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (marcocadeddu[at]tin.it) X-Scan-Signature: cd16d8c2fb75309db133b7de4adb1391 Subject: R: Re: LF:8270 Hz Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by klubnl.pl id vB3J2thh017592 While congratulating to Joe, Dex and Paul for the achievement :-) I'm getting intrigued from the "tinnitus" mentioned from Markus and Dex. I don't guess is the RF giving this effect but could be simply the coil vibrating like a trasductor trasmitting an audio frequency which although is in the "audible" field is not audible with easy but recordered from the brain. An 8kHz audio frequency could be easily cured with some open cells foam and a thin (say a couple of cm thick) panel around the coil should reduce or delete the effect. Due to the high voltage on the coil my suggestion is to try to use white foam (the black one has some carbon black inside..) and place the panel 10 cm away from the coil: it could also be a sort of weather shield for the coil. Has anybody already tried? 73 Marco IK1HSS ----Messaggio originale---- Da: markusvester@aol.com Data: 3-dic-2017 14.22 A: Ogg: Re: LF: W4DEX at 8270 Hz - and VO1NA Hi Paul, superb! This is absolutely amazing work. We can now clearly see the southwesterly origin of nighttime QRN, presumably South America. A similar effect is apparent on the wideband twin cardioids at DL0AO, with generally higher noise background from the west than the east. I am wondering if we are seeing the nonreciprocity here, suppressing distant QRN from Asia more than from the Americas. But it might also be related to absorption over a land versus sea path. Regarding the spectrogram implementation, three questions crossed my mind: - The directional lobe seems rather sharp (also on the old two-loop spectrogram), slewing the pointer by say 45 ° lets a signal completely disappear. Linear cardioid magnitude |B| = mu0 * | Ez/Z0 + Hx cos(phi) - Hy sin(phi) | should be much smoother, so I presume you are calculationg brightness using some nonlinear function of angle? - What is the latency between the end of a one-hour buffer and the time the latest spectrogram comes online? Could downconvert-and-decimate be used to speed up FFT calculations for the narrow spectrogram? - For the three input channels, are you still using three separate stereo soundcards with individual timing corrections, or one of the newer multichannel soundcards (e.g. Octo on RasPi)? Best 73, Markus -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Paul Nicholson An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: So, 3. Dez 2017 13:06 Betreff: Re: LF: W4DEX at 8270 Hz - and VO1NA Have a look at http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins2.shtml and swing the compass round to 280 degrees. I've made no alterations to the display settings other than to use 3-axis signals instead of 2-axis. Compare with the 2-axis spectrogram http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins.shtml to see the difference the extra channel makes. Still processing data in background to fill in the spectrogram. It will slowly back date to 2017-12-01 14:00, in batches, you'll have to refresh from time to time. It'll take a day or two to catch up. -- Paul Nicholson --