Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 7FA683800009B; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TkHGj-0000zL-1U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:40:49 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TkHGi-0000zC-89 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:40:48 +0000 Received: from smtpout3.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.59] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TkHGf-0001E0-DE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:40:47 +0000 Received: from AGB ([2.26.17.3]) by mwinf5d33 with ME id cGgN1k00903yCLJ03GgNY5; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:40:23 +0100 Message-ID: <15DBBDF3DEE241F09EA960FC75B1A33E@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <3D18457F879B4ADFA9CDE7CC0E8A1091@JIMLAP2> <1984450B600247D2A52125A1BB545426@AGB> <003601cddba5$8f035720$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <003601cddba5$8f035720$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:40:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Mal, In sure if it was a contest band , would of been sorted years ago , number of people walking round the convention with DX T -shirts , looked more like a geologists convention , with I've been to a strange place , one had even been to Christmas island no mention of a geiger counter or film badges though , as from the holiday pictures the place clearly has not been decontaminated , odd destination , I used to work with one ex national service raf-gef who had stood at ground zero under the cloud on what he described as a large glass 'frozen lake' [ though actually it was still hot] , taking radiation reading with a hand held meter , assumedly where the fire-ball had touch ground ... [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.59 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: b94ece9466137fb0eee8344788d30cd4 Subject: Re: LF: UK - MF - LF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0090_01CDDBAC.0AA78120" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d601850cdfaa14967 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0090_01CDDBAC.0AA78120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal, In sure if it was a contest band , would of been sorted = years ago , number of people walking round the convention with = DX T -shirts , looked more like a geologists convention , with = I've been to a strange place , one had even been to Christmas = island no mention of a geiger counter or film badges though , = as from the holiday pictures the place clearly has not been = decontaminated , odd destination , I used to work with one ex = national service raf-gef who had stood at ground zero under = the cloud on what he described as a large glass 'frozen lake' = [ though actually it was still hot] , taking radiation reading = with a hand held meter , assumedly where the fire-ball had touch = ground ...=20 Yes voice qso's are now often with alien beings who have a = strange codified language based round comparisons to inanimate = objects like , walls , tree's, flowers numbers etc =20 With the eventual passing of any hands on technical aspect = of radio , this is not going to be the limit to devaluation ? G.. From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:53 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: UK - MF - LF Graham Since the RAE tick test started, Morse test scrubbed, Beacon mode = started, Amateur Radio has declined and has become a joke. I am not surprised OFCOM is not in any hurry. Different story to years = ago in the GPO days, queries answered immediately and changes notified = well in advance. Amateur Radio in the past was an honourable persuit and = valued. g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:23 PM Subject: Re: LF: UK - MF - LF Nothing in the last rsgb news of the year then ? There will be = no news readings on 23 or 30 December. so that's the surprise = announcement theory out the window then ... So what's left phone a friend or ask the audience ? G..=20 From: James Cowburn=20 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:27 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: UK - MF - LF Hopefully, it will be a simple webform for exsiting NOV holders. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: 15 December 2012 11:00 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: UK - MF - LF Thanks David, Yes I had read that - "Details (re. NOV applications) will be = published soon" As I say - no definitive word. 73 Chris XIZ -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: David Pratt To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, 15 December 2012, 10:38 Subject: Re: LF: UK - MF - LF The official word is there, Chris, and has been for some time. All we = know is that our existing SRPs expire and will not be renewed. We have = to re-apply for an NoV. But how we do it remains to be seen. = http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/radiocommunication-licences/amateur-radio/f= ull-licence-jan-2013/ 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Chris Osborn writes > LF/ MF >=20 > I guess there's still no definitive word from OfCom regarding the = new > MF band NOV's (?) > Chris G3XIZ -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + ------=_NextPart_000_0090_01CDDBAC.0AA78120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mal,  In sure  if  it was a  contest  band = , =20 would  of  been  sorted  years  ago  ,=20 number  of  people  walking  round  the =20 convention  with  DX T -shirts   , looked  more = like=20 a  geologists   convention  , with  I've =20 been  to  a  strange place  , one  had  = even =20 been  to  Christmas  island   no = mention  of=20 a  geiger counter or   film   badges  = though=20 ,  as  from the holiday   pictures  the =20 place  clearly  has not  been  decontaminated  = ,=20 odd  destination , I  used to  work  with  = one =20 ex  national  service  raf-gef   who  = had =20 stood  at  ground  zero  under the  cloud  = on=20 what  he  described  as  a  large  = glass =20 'frozen lake'  [ though  actually  = it  was =20 still   hot]  , taking  radiation  = reading  with=20 a  hand  held  meter  , = assumedly  =20 where the  fire-ball  had touch  ground ...
 
Yes  voice qso's  are  now  often =  with =20 alien   beings who   have  a = strange  =20 codified  language   based round  = comparisons  to=20  inanimate  objects  like  , walls  , tree's,=20 flowers  numbers etc   
 
With  the  eventual  passing  of  = any =20 hands  on   technical   aspect  of =20 radio  , this  is  not  going  to  be = the =20 limit to  devaluation ?
 
G..

From: mal hamilton
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:53 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: UK - MF - LF

Graham
Since the RAE tick test started, Morse test = scrubbed,=20 Beacon mode started, Amateur Radio has declined and has become a=20 joke.
I am not surprised OFCOM is not in any hurry. = Different=20 story to years ago in the GPO days, queries answered immediately and = changes=20 notified well in advance. Amateur Radio in the past was an honourable = persuit=20 and valued.
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 = 3:23=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: UK - MF - = LF

Nothing  in the  last  rsgb news  of = the =20 year  then  ? There will be no news readings = on 23 or=20 30 December. so  that's  the  surprise  = announcement=20    theory out the  window  then ...
 
So  what's left  phone a friend  = or =20 ask  the  audience  ?
 
G.. 
 

Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:27 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: RE: LF: UK - MF - LF

Hopefully, = it will be=20 a simple webform for exsiting NOV holders.

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris = Osborn
Sent: 15 December 2012 = 11:00
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Subject: Re: LF: UK - MF -=20 LF

 

Thanks=20 David,

Yes I had read that - "Details (re. NOV applications) = will be=20 published soon"
As I say - no definitive word.

73
Chris=20 XIZ

 

From: David = Pratt=20 <david@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Saturday, 15 = December=20 2012, 10:38
Subject: Re: LF:=20 UK - MF - LF


The official word is = there, Chris,=20 and has been for some time. All we know is that our existing SRPs = expire and=20 will not be renewed. We have to re-apply for an NoV. But how we do it = remains=20 to be seen.

http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/radiocommunication-licences= /amateur-radio/full-licence-jan-2013/

73=20 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Chris Osborn <g3xiz@yahoo.co.uk> = writes
>=20 LF/ MF
>
> I guess there's still no definitive word from = OfCom=20 regarding the new
> MF band NOV's (?)
> Chris=20 G3XIZ

--  + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +
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| Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk |
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