Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id x2GIWeE0013896 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 19:32:41 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1h5DuL-00045c-P0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 18:19:45 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1h5Dtt-00045L-4p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 18:19:17 +0000 Received: from emout03.email.it ([212.97.34.22]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1h5Dtq-0004jK-GE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 18:19:15 +0000 Received: from emout03.email.it (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by emout03.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62304961F8 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 19:19:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from x220.localnet (62-11-90-126.dialup.tiscali.it [62.11.90.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by emout03.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4CBDB961CF for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 19:19:12 +0100 (CET) From: Claudio Pozzi To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 19:19:10 +0100 Message-ID: <1576862.Stadbe6T0c@x220> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.1 (Linux/3.16.0-4-amd64; KDE/4.14.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <931768640.5749062.1552683874517@mail.yahoo.com> References: <931768640.5749062.1552683874517.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <931768640.5749062.1552683874517@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Friday, March 15, 2019 09:04:34 PM you wrote: > Hi ELF, Do KV’s of ELF on a TX antenna offset ordivert a tiny > amount of atmospheric current entering the RX antenna? Supposethe > atmosphere has [...] Content analysis details: (-0.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [212.97.34.22 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (smtp01[at]email.it) 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (smtp01[at]email.it) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars X-Scan-Signature: 24b65a258fa7a3a87cfdaa03bb2f3176 Subject: Re: LF: Re =?UTF-8?B?RUxG4oCmMTIuNjdIeiw=?= ELF Resistance Model Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="nextPart3293396.9BIcTnu1Gu" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --nextPart3293396.9BIcTnu1Gu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Friday, March 15, 2019 09:04:34 PM you wrote: > Hi ELF, Do KV=E2=80=99s of ELF on a TX antenna offset ordi= vert a tiny > amount of atmospheric current entering the RX antenna? Supposethe > atmosphere has equipotential surface(s) high in a an electrically > resistiveair mass in which the ELF TX and RX antennas are embedded at= > groundlevel. If so, what happensquantitatively?=20 >=20 May be that you forgot that the electric charge in the atmosphere is=20= carried by free electrons, positive and negative ions, so you have to t= ake=20 in account the speed of those particles in your model. The speed in the air is slow and depend by the electric field, nothing = to do=20 with the speed of light.=20 And the speed of negative charge carriers and positive carriers are not= =20 the same. 73 de Claudio, ik2pii =0D=0A =0D=0A --=0D=0A ZE-Light e ZE-Pro: servizi zimbra per caselle con dominio email.it, per tutti i dettagli =0D=0A Clicca qui http://posta.email.it/caselle-di-posta-z-email-it.php?utm_campaign=3Demail_Zimbra_102014=3Dmain_footer/f=0D=0A =0D=0A Sponsor:=0D=0A Registra i domini che desideri ed inizia a creare il tuo sito web=0D=0A Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=3D13323&d=3D16-3=0D=0A --nextPart3293396.9BIcTnu1Gu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

On = Friday, March 15, 2019 09:04:34 PM you wrote:

>= ; =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hi ELF,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = Do KV=E2=80=99s of ELF on a TX antenna offset ordivert a tiny

>= ; amount of atmospheric current entering the RX antenna?=C2=A0 Supposet= he

>= ; atmosphere has equipotential surface(s)=C2=A0high in a an electricall= y

>= ; resistiveair=C2=A0mass in which the ELF TX and RX=C2=A0antennas are e= mbedded at

>= ; groundlevel.=C2=A0=C2=A0 If so, what happensquantitatively?=C2=A0

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>= ;

 

May= be that you forgot that the electric charge in the atmosphere is carri= ed by free electrons, positive and negative ions, so you have to take i= n account the speed of those particles in your model.

 

The= speed in the air is slow and depend by the electric field, nothing to = do with the speed of light.

And= the speed of negative charge carriers and positive carriers are not th= e same.

 

73 = de Claudio, ik2pii


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