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But now I have a test version of SlowJT9 (not published yet) that allows UDP broadcasting. Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [2a02:2c40:0:c0:0:0:25:137 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST BODY: HTML font color similar or identical to background 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 1071da3933cc71afd2b8c5f341fb2b80 Subject: LF: Re: Audio alert for JT-9 activity? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_155316797788472404kuleuvenbe_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,NO_EXPERIENCE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --_000_155316797788472404kuleuvenbe_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Neil, Paul, all, sorry for the delayed reply, but I have been very busy otherwise the past w= eeks. But now I have a test version of SlowJT9 (not published yet) that allows UD= P broadcasting. But how to proceed? The initial question (raised by Chris, 2E0ILY) was to be alerted when certa= in messages are decoded, even when you are not in the shack. The best way to do that (in my opinion) would be a smartphone app that "buz= zes" and displays the decoded message whenever somthing interesting is deco= ded, so you can have a look and decide wether you want to rush into the sha= ck. I have however no experience at all in creating such apps (if possible plat= form independent, so it will work on Android, Windows and IOS). As a test I did write a small Java app (class) that just dumps whatever is = broadcasted by SlowJT9 and it seems to work fine over a local network (127.= 0.0.1). Is there anyone who has experience in this field and is willing to help? Ei= ther by pointing me into the right direction or (even better) by creating s= uch an app. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: rsgb-lf-group@groups.io namens Neil Smith G4= DBN Verzonden: vrijdag 8 maart 2019 12:01 Aan: rsgb-lf-group@groups.io Onderwerp: Re: [rsgb-lf-group] LF: Audio alert for JT-9 activity? UDP would be very useful if it is possible to implement, as then we could u= se any alerting method with a simple piece of code as I do for WSJT-X Neil G4DBN -------- Original message -------- From: N1BUG Date: 08/03/2019 10:43 (GMT+00:00) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb-lf-group@groups.io, 600MRG@mailman.q= th.net Subject: Re: [rsgb-lf-group] LF: Audio alert for JT-9 activity? Hello Rik, all... The alert feature would be useful to me. Ideal alert level to me would be new station *or* DX station (based on distance). But if I have to pick on, then new station. Alert via a pin on a serial port seems best, as long as it has the possibility to work with some of the better USB to serial converters. I have three sound cards, it's still not enough, they are all busy. :) 73, Paul N1BUG On 3/8/19 5:24 AM, Rik Strobbe wrote: > Hello Chris, Andy, all, > > > Regarding SlowJT9: adding a simple alert via a serial port pin > going high is easy. Via that pin you can drive whatever you want > (a simple buzzer or a more sophisticated "alarm"). > > Other options such as UDP messages, an e-mail or message to a > smartphone to be sent are also possible but will be more labor > intensive to implement. > > > But the first question is: what events should trigger the alarm? > > There can be various criteria: > > - DX station (DX =3D based on distance or on other continent?) > > - New DXXX entity > > - New station (never worked before) > > - A specific callsign (useful on sked) > > - ... > > Evaluating the incoming messages might become more complicated > that implementing the alert itself ... > > > So my questions to all of you: > > - To whom would alert option in SlowJT9 be useful? > > - Based on what criteria should it be possible to trigger an > alert? > > - What way the alert should be send? > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > ________________________________ Van: rsgb-lf-group@groups.io > namens Andy G4JNT > Verzonden: donderdag 7 maart 2019 18:49 > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb-lf-group@groups.io > Onderwerp: Re: [rsgb-lf-group] LF: Audio alert for JT-9 > activity? > > The trouble with that is that the sound card output is used for > audio drive to the transmitter, so unless you play your Tx audio > also through the speakers or use different sound cards, you'll > run into complications. > > One way, without actually doing anything to the WSJT-X software > would be to intercept the UDP messages broadcast by WSJT-X and, > using a another prog running on teh sam emachine, read these > messages and parse them for a JT9 decode. Then do whatever you > need to do for an audio alert. Sound card issues are the same, > but a piezo bleeper on a spare COM port would do the trick. > JT9-SLow software doesn't broadcast UDP messages, but that's more > amenable to the author implementing the facility - perhaps ? > > Andy www.g4jnt.com > > > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 17:23, Chris Wilson > > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I just sent this message to the WSJT-X forum, would anyone > support this request? If so please respond there. If Slow JT-9 > could add this I would find it a very useful addition :) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > I work mainly on LF 136kHz and although even trans Atlantic > QSO's occur from here in the UK activity is very limited and > spasmodic. When I check for activity I have often missed the > chance to respond. A selectable audio alert of activity would be > a Godsend, would there be any interest in supporting such an > addition? Thanks 2E0ILY > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~, > > > > -- Best regards, Chris > mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com > > > > _._,_._,_ ________________________________ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#8622) |= Reply To Group | Reply= To Sender | Mute This= Topic | New Topic Your Subscription | Cont= act Group Owner | Unsubscribe [rik.strobbe@kule= uven.be] _._,_._,_ --_000_155316797788472404kuleuvenbe_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Neil, Paul, all,


sorry for the delayed reply, but I have been very busy otherwise the pas= t weeks.

But now I have a test version of SlowJT9 (not published yet) that allows=  UDP broadcasting.

But how to proceed?


The initial question (raised by Chris, 2E0ILY) was to be alerted when ce= rtain messages are decoded, even when you are not in the shack.

The best way to do that (in my opinion) would be a smartphone app that &= quot;buzzes" and displays the decoded message whenever somthing i= nteresting is decoded, so you can have a look and decide wether you want to=  rush into the shack.


I have however no experience at all in creating such apps (if possi= ble platform independent, so it will work on Android, Windows and IOS).

As a test I did write a small Java app (class) that just dumps what= ever is broadcasted by SlowJT9 and it seems to work fine over a local netwo= rk (127.0.0.1).


Is there anyone who has experience in this field and is willing to help?= Either by pointing me into the right direction or (even better) by creatin= g such an app.


73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


Van: rsgb-lf-group@groups.i= o <rsgb-lf-group@groups.io> namens Neil Smith G4DBN <neil@g4dbn.uk= >
Verzonden: vrijdag 8 maart 2019 12:01
Aan: rsgb-lf-group@groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [rsgb-lf-group] LF: Audio alert for JT-9 activity?
 
UDP would be very useful if it is possible to implement, as then we co= uld use any alerting method with a simple piece of code as I do for WSJT-X
Neil G4DBN

-------- Original message --------
From: N1BUG <paul@n1bug.com>
Date: 08/03/2019 10:43 (GMT+00:00)
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb-lf-group@groups.io, 600MRG@mail= man.qth.net
Subject: Re: [rsgb-lf-group] LF: Audio alert for JT-9 activity?

Hello Rik, all...

The alert feature would be useful to me.

Ideal alert level to me would be new station *or* DX station (based
on distance). But if I have to pick on, then new station.

Alert via a pin on a serial port seems best, as long as it has the
possibility to work with some of the better USB to serial
converters. I have three sound cards, it's still not enough, they
are all busy. :)

73,
Paul N1BUG



On 3/8/19 5:24 AM, Rik Strobbe wrote:
> Hello Chris, Andy, all,
>
>
> Regarding SlowJT9: adding a simple alert via a serial port pin
> going high is easy. Via that pin you can drive whatever you want
> (a simple buzzer or a more sophisticated "alarm").
>
> Other options such as UDP messages, an e-mail or message to a
> smartphone to be sent are also possible but will be more labor
> intensive to implement.
>
>
> But the first question is: what events should trigger the alarm?
>
> There can be various criteria:
>
> - DX station (DX =3D based on distance or on other continent?)
>
> - New DXXX entity
>
> - New station (never worked before)
>
> - A specific callsign (useful on sked)
>
> - ...
>
> Evaluating the incoming messages might become more complicated
> that implementing the alert itself ...
>
>
> So my questions to all of you:
>
> - To whom would alert option in SlowJT9 be useful?
>
> - Based on what criteria should it be possible to trigger an
> alert?
>
> - What way the alert should be send?
>
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Van: rsgb-lf-group@groups.io
> <rsgb-lf-group@groups.io> namens Andy G4JNT
> <andy.g4jnt@gmail.com> Verzonden: donderdag 7 maart 2019 18:49 <= br> > Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb-lf-group@groups.io
> Onderwerp: Re: [rsgb-lf-group] LF: Audio alert for JT-9
> activity?
>
> The trouble with that is that the sound card output is used for
> audio drive to the transmitter, so unless you play your Tx audio
> also through the speakers or use different sound cards, you'll
> run into complications.
>
> One way, without actually doing anything to the WSJT-X software
> would be to intercept the UDP messages broadcast by WSJT-X and,
> using a another prog running on teh sam emachine, read these
> messages and parse them for a JT9 decode.   Then do whatever= you
> need to do for an audio alert.  Sound card issues are the same, > but a piezo bleeper on a spare COM port would do the trick.
> JT9-SLow software doesn't broadcast UDP messages, but that's more
> amenable to the author implementing the facility - perhaps ?
>
> Andy www.g4jnt.com<http://www.g4jnt.com>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 17:23, Chris Wilson
> <dead.fets@gmail.com<mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com>> wrote: >
>
> Hi all,
>
> I  just  sent  this  message to the WSJT-X forum, = would anyone
> support this  request? If so please respond there. If Slow JT-9 > could add this I would find it a very useful addition :)
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> I work mainly on LF 136kHz and although even trans Atlantic
> QSO's occur from here in the UK activity is very limited and
> spasmodic. When I check for activity I have often missed the
> chance to respond. A selectable audio alert of activity would be
> a Godsend, would there be any interest in supporting such an
> addition? Thanks 2E0ILY
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~,
>
>
>
> -- Best regards, Chris
> mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com<mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>



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