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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: My radio (Yaesu FT-2000) is set at the very bottom of what the receiver can cover at 30 KHz in lower sideband mode to catch Bob’s signal. The scale shows the audio frequency, so Bob’s signal is around 501 Hz below 30 KHz or 29.499 KHz. My radio probably has a little drift so I would not rely on that to show slight shift in frequency. Also I had made an adjustment earlier when I switched it to QRSS 120 mode to bring the frequency into the middle of the capture. Hope that clears up any confusion. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.223.173 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: d2a449809c9c1ff1983612d049372878 Subject: LF: Re: keydown carrier... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01CF3651.5D0010D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01CF3651.5D0010D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My radio (Yaesu FT-2000) is set at the very bottom of what the receiver = can cover at 30 KHz in lower sideband mode to catch Bob=E2=80=99s = signal. The scale shows the audio frequency, so Bob=E2=80=99s signal is = around 501 Hz below 30 KHz or 29.499 KHz. My radio probably has a little = drift so I would not rely on that to show slight shift in frequency. = Also I had made an adjustment earlier when I switched it to QRSS 120 = mode to bring the frequency into the middle of the capture. Hope that = clears up any confusion. 73 Jay KA9CFD EN40om From: hvanesce=20 Sent: March 2, 2014 18:56 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: keydown carrier... Jay, =20 Can you help me with units? I am seeing 10mHz shifts on Paul=E2=80=99s = spectrogram and in Bob=E2=80=99s comments; but I read about 0.25 and 0.5 = (not sure of units) shifts on your http://lwca.org/grabbers/ka9cfd/ = spectrogram. What are the units of the frequency scale? (I see a Hz = label, but I can =E2=80=98t work out the numbers) =20 Thanks! =20 73, Jim AA5BW =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Bob Raide Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:10 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: keydown carrier... =20 Paul and Jay; I went out to shack with 2 people [company for the evening and very = curious] I had total mental block mwhen came time to punch 29.499 in!!! = Very embarrassing! Sorry for couple minute delay had to go to Jay's = site to get correct freq! Paul break at freq shift very clear. Will QRSS180 be slow enough to get = capture or maybe need 240 or 500? =20 > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 23:57:53 +0000 > From: vlf0403@abelian.org > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: keydown carrier... >=20 >=20 > I just put together a live spectrogram. >=20 > http://abelian.org/vlf/sg29499.shtml >=20 > Updated every 15 mins. The first frequency change is > visible now. >=20 > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01CF3651.5D0010D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My radio (Yaesu FT-2000) is set at the very bottom of what the = receiver can=20 cover at 30 KHz in lower sideband mode to catch Bob=E2=80=99s signal. = The scale shows=20 the audio frequency, so Bob=E2=80=99s signal is around 501 Hz below 30 = KHz or 29.499=20 KHz. My radio probably has a little drift so I would not rely on that to = show=20 slight shift in frequency. Also I had made an adjustment earlier when I = switched=20 it to QRSS 120 mode to bring the frequency into the middle of the = capture. Hope=20 that clears up any confusion.
 
73 Jay KA9CFD  EN40om
 
From: hvanesce
Sent: March 2, 2014 18:56
Subject: RE: LF: keydown carrier...
 

Jay,

 

Can=20 you help me with units? I am seeing 10mHz shifts on Paul=E2=80=99s = spectrogram and in=20 Bob=E2=80=99s comments; but I read about 0.25 and 0.5 (not sure of = units) shifts on your=20 http://lwca.org/grabbers/ka9cfd= /=20 spectrogram. What are the units of the frequency scale? (I see a Hz = label, but I=20 can =E2=80=98t work out the numbers)

 

Thanks!

 

73,=20 Jim AA5BW

 

From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]=20 On Behalf Of Bob Raide
Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:10 = PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: RE: LF: = keydown=20 carrier...

 

Paul and=20 Jay;
I went out to shack with 2 people [company for the evening and = very=20 curious]  I had total mental block mwhen came time to punch 29.499=20 in!!!  Very embarrassing!   Sorry for couple minute delay = had to=20 go to Jay's site to get correct freq!
Paul break at freq shift very=20 clear.  Will QRSS180 be slow enough to get capture or maybe need = 240 or=20 500?
 

> Date:=20 Sun, 2 Mar 2014 23:57:53 +0000
> From: vlf0403@abelian.org
> To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
>=20 Subject: Re: LF: keydown carrier...
>
>
> I just put = together a live spectrogram.
>
> http://abelian.org/vlf/sg29= 499.shtml
>=20
> Updated every 15 mins. The first frequency change is
> = visible=20 now.
>
> --
> Paul Nicholson
> --
>=20

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