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Content preview: Hi John, Nicolas, Chris, thanks for your respnses, I forwarded it all to N0DZQ. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org namens John Langridge Verzonden: vrijdag 5 oktober 2018 22:18 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: RE: FW: Icom Transceiver Question [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2a02:2c40:0:c0:0:0:25:136 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: 5f132ffce194fb93f2267a462d849f2b Subject: Re: LF: RE: FW: Icom Transceiver Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by klubnl.pl id w968V5Cp026397 Hi John, Nicolas, Chris, thanks for your respnses, I forwarded it all to N0DZQ. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org namens John Langridge Verzonden: vrijdag 5 oktober 2018 22:18 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: RE: FW: Icom Transceiver Question > Hello Rik , I don’t know the IC-718 but my IC-735 was modified for MF band > with 45W out. I guess the question is whether the IC-735 mod Nicolas refers to is the MARS/CAP mod or the Jacek mod (http://alain.st.free.fr/site1/aspicsite/IC-735/500KHZ/735-630m-mod.pdf), the latter being reported to be pretty good. Of course this does not address the IC 718 question but I suspect the MARS and CAP mod is what is being described... The problem with the MARS and CAP mod is many don't realize or understand that the power being generated on 137 and 472 is harmonic- rich and requires an outboard LPF and some other means of amplification. The outboard LPF is a new concept for some since that functionality is being handled inside the transceiver for HF... I've seen some report 40-50 watts of power output on 472, which is harmonic-rich, from a modified transceiver, believing that all of it is on 472. Sometimes they can be convinced to use an external filter which lowers the power considerably. I heard of one guy that didn't like the fact that the filter "lowered" his power output at the desired frequency so he removed it which, of course, is very problematic, but it was the filter doing it's job. Antenna matching networks alone are typically very substandard and under-performing when it comes to filtering functions... It's probably not a good idea to do the MARS and CAP mods for 137 or 472. I don't know for certain, but for a 718, that's probably the only option (assuming it is an option anymore) without considerable effort (like the Jacek mod). 73! John