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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, I agree about a top 10 or top 20. But to avoid "endless" lists I tend to keep the distance record list as it is (only the best distance) and have seperate top 10/20 lists, linked from the record list. 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But to avoid "endless" lists I tend to keep the distance record list as it = is (only the best distance) and have seperate top 10/20 lists, linked from = the record list. I just added the link for Europe, if this is OK I will add it for worldwide= and the other continents as well. What do you (and the others) think about that? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org namens DK7FC Verzonden: maandag 4 juni 2018 23:08 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: 472 kHz distance records Hello Rik, I would vote for a TOP10 or even TOP20 list. It is always interesting to se= e what was achieved, no need to keep the list as compact as possible. The best distance made from EU (and the world) was certainly F6CNI to VK1DS= K, see https://www.radioamateur.org/les-news-radio/news-1199-Record-mondial= -F6CNI-re%e7oit-VK1DSH-en-WSPR-sur-630m-! 73, Stefan Am 04.06.2018 22:54, schrieb Rik Strobbe: ??Hello Stefan, the idea is to list the best DX for the different modes (CW, QRSS/DFCW, dig= i), worldwide and for each continent. Similar to what exists for VHF and UH= F bands (eg https://pk-ukf.org.pl/dxrec.html? ). Instead of just the best DX I can eventually list a top 3 or top 5. It's up to what the 472 kHz community wants. About WSPR: my first thought was to cinsider these as SWL reports (honoring= the RX station), but maybe I should add the best TX station as well (for t= he continental records). For FR5DX I already have a WSPR copy of G3KEV at 9915km, that is probably t= he WSPR RX record for Africa and maybe the TX record for Europe (although i= t might be possible that EU stations were copied in NA at distances > 10000= km). The KB5NDJ website is a great source of information, but unfortunately I do= n't have enough tiime to dig for record there. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org namens DK7FC Verzonden: maandag 4 juni 2018 22:12 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: 472 kHz distance records Hello Rik, What distances are of interest? > 5000 km for example? My best results so far are: Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter = RGrid km az 2016-03-01 05:50 DK7FC 0.475684 -18 -1 JN49ik = 1 ZF1EJ EK99ig 8393 283 and FR5ZX in 9095 km, see http://njdtechnologies.net/wp-content/uploads/201= 5/10/DK7FC-FR5ZX-103115d.jpg Fortunately captured by John on this site: http://njdtechnologies.net/noisy= -conditions-in-na-have-impact-wh2xcr-has-another-good-session-dk7fc-fr5zx-l= ots-of-activity/ Best QRB for me in CW is < 2000 km, i don't know more details in the moment= ... 73, Stefan Am 04.06.2018 17:48, schrieb Rik Strobbe: Dear all, On Roger's (VK4YB) suggestion I added a distance record list at the 472kHz.= org website, see http://www.472khz.org/pages/on-the-air/distance-records.ph= p. The list is as wel for world wide records as far continental records. At this moment the list is only sparsely populated, I am awaiting your clai= ms !!! 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T --_000_152818574024858664kuleuvenbe_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

​​Hello Stefan,


the idea is to list the best DX for the different modes (CW, QRSS/D= FCW, digi), worldwide and for each continent. Similar to what exists f= or VHF and UHF bands (eg = https://pk-ukf.org.pl/dxrec.html​ ).

Instead of just the best DX I can eventually list a top 3 or top 5.

It's up to what the 472 kHz community wants.


About WSPR: my first thought was to cinsider these as SWL reports (honor= ing the RX station), but maybe I should add the best TX station as well (fo= r the continental records).

For FR5DX I already have a WSPR copy of G3KEV at 9915km, that is probabl= y the WSPR RX record for Africa and maybe the TX record for Europe (al= though it might be possible that EU stations were copied in NA at distances= > 10000km).


The KB5NDJ website is a great source of information, but unfortunately I= don't have enough tiime to dig for record there.


73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> namens DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de>
Verzonden: maandag 4 juni 2018 22:12
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: 472 kHz distance records
 
Hello Rik,

What distances are of interest? > 5000 km for example?

My best results so far are:

Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
 2016-03-01 05:50   DK7FC   0.475684   -18   -1   JN49ik   1   ZF1EJ   EK99ig   8393   283 

and FR5ZX in 9095 km, see http://njdtechnologies.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/DK7FC-FR5ZX-103115d.j= pg
Fortunately captured by John on this site: http://njdtechnologies.net/noisy-conditions-in-na-have-impact-wh2xcr-has-an= other-good-session-dk7fc-fr5zx-lots-of-activity/

Best QRB for me in CW is < 2000 km, i don't know more details in the mom= ent...

73, Stefan

Am 04.06.2018 17:48, schrieb Rik Strobbe:

Dear all,


On Roger's (VK4YB) suggestion I added a distance record list at the 472k= Hz.org website, see http://www.472khz.org/pages/on-the-air/distance-recor= ds.php.

The list is as wel for world wide records as far continental records.

At this moment the list is only sparsely populated, I am awaiting y= our claims !!!


73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


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