Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1481; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u9LGvb0K000943 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2016 18:57:37 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bxd5E-0000wV-Gf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2016 17:54:16 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.34] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bxd5D-0000wM-Of for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2016 17:54:15 +0100 Received: from rhcavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([2a02:2c40:0:c0::25:130] helo=cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bxd59-0003Ns-DM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2016 17:54:14 +0100 X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@kuleuven.be X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-ID: 0637412802D.A1ECA X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Received: from icts-p-smtps-2.cc.kuleuven.be (icts-p-smtps-2e.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.34]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0637412802D for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2016 18:54:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ICTS-S-EXMBX17.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-exmbx17.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.11.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by icts-p-smtps-2.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0377E2003B for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2016 18:54:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ICTS-S-EXMBX27.luna.kuleuven.be (10.112.11.62) by ICTS-S-EXMBX17.luna.kuleuven.be (10.112.11.48) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3; Fri, 21 Oct 2016 18:54:07 +0200 Received: from ICTS-S-EXMBX27.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::291a:cc4f:6953:698a]) by ICTS-S-EXMBX27.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::291a:cc4f:6953:698a%25]) with mapi id 15.00.1210.000; Fri, 21 Oct 2016 18:54:07 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: LF: Distance of LF vertical antenna element from lattice work steel mast? Thread-Index: AQHSK6SmZa3ryU9IQEKW6XG7D1Hm4KCy78gAgAAueZ0= Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 16:54:07 +0000 Message-ID: <1477068845521.60681@kuleuven.be> References: <1025448629.20161021150108@chriswilson.tv>,<157e7f937f2-157e-d2a@webprd-m84.mail.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <157e7f937f2-157e-d2a@webprd-m84.mail.aol.com> Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-GB, en-US Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.112.50.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: 617a5faed955112e448650f4d003a84d Subject: Re: LF: Distance of LF vertical antenna element from lattice work steel mast? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_147706884552160681kuleuvenbe_" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Length: 5155 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9133 --_000_147706884552160681kuleuvenbe_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Chris, to avoid issues with the mast you can either - Feed the antenna at the top of the tower via an isolating tranformer. The big disadvantage is that you will have to position the loading coil als= o at the top of the tower. - Feed the antenna at ground level using a second wire to cancel out the ef= fect of the tower. Have a look here: http://www.strobbe.eu/on7yd/136ant/#Tower. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org namens Markus Vester Verzonden: vrijdag 21 oktober 2016 18:00 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: Distance of LF vertical antenna element from lattice wor= k steel mast? I'd suggest two to three meters. 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Chris Wilson An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Fr, 21 Okt 2016 4:03 pm Betreff: LF: Distance of LF vertical antenna element from lattice work stee= l mast? 21 October 2016 Having improved the grounding here I now want to get at least the lowest corner of my big horizontal roughly square wire loop up higher than the apex of my bungalow it's currently tied to. The highest nearest structure is my 40 foot wind up lattice work steel mast. It would be most convenient to have the vertical element at this corner. How far away from the steel mast should the vertical element be to not have issues please? I strap the window line feeder at the base to form the vertical so I can also use the horizontal loop on HF bands. Thanks -- Best regards, Chris 2E0ILY mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv My part time LF grabber is at http://www.chriswilson.tv/grabber.html --_000_147706884552160681kuleuvenbe_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Chris,

 

to avoid issues with the mast you can either

 

- Feed the antenna at the top of the tower via an isolating tranformer.<= /p>

The big disadvantage is that you will have to position the loading coil = also at the top of the tower.

 

- Feed the antenna at ground level using a second wire to cancel ou= t the effect of the tower.

 

Have a look here: = http://www.strobbe.eu/on7yd/136ant/#Tower.

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

 


Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> namens Markus Ves= ter <markusvester@aol.com>
Verzonden: vrijdag 21 oktober 2016 18:00
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: Distance of LF vertical antenna element from latt= ice work steel mast?
 
I'd suggest two to three meters.

73, Markus (DF6NM)


-----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Chris Wilson <chris@chriswilson.tv>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Fr, 21 Okt 2016 4:03 pm
Betreff: LF: Distance of LF vertical antenna element from lattice work stee= l mast?

21 October 2016


Having improved the grounding here I now want to get at least the
lowest corner of my big horizontal roughly square wire loop up higher
than the apex of my bungalow it's currently tied to. The highest
nearest structure is my 40 foot wind up lattice work steel mast. It
would be most convenient to have the vertical element at this corner.
How far away from the steel mast should the vertical element be to not
have issues please? I strap the window line feeder at the base to form
the vertical so I can also use the horizontal loop on HF bands. Thanks



--


Best regards,
Chris 2E0ILY mailto:chris@chriswil= son.tv

My part time LF grabber is at
http:/= /www.chriswilson.tv/grabber.html


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