Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id sBFC3dJ7016616 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 13:03:41 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Y0UEL-0003qH-4z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:54:25 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Y0UEK-0003q8-Fv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:54:24 +0000 Received: from nm3-vm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([212.82.96.92]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0UEI-0000oV-Bq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:54:23 +0000 Received: from [212.82.98.60] by nm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Dec 2014 11:54:21 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.112] by tm13.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Dec 2014 11:54:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Dec 2014 11:54:21 -0000 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=yahoo.co.uk Result=Good and Known Domain X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 423384.87225.bm@omp1049.mail.ir2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 79118 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Dec 2014 11:54:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1418644461; bh=X1PAV3BG+QboP1sYRBc74PbCJQWpNVsdVb3frc5XOK8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0+Ie8La/TGESciVfMBN14+cOGR9HfgenU/HVhH43NDRriWYlaZWpc8AFEvF5Ouedr+sRff+1U5QGTdLBfA0yJRhYKJeNGYqpGlGBYRhJdtrzicji4XiEyRJzFi2yQp3Dj5MTZBCFibEiGAUZyjMc0UCZ8oY7+1f9p76p8abH/pc= X-YMail-OSG: pFhE4KIVM1lxsA7ah3VHZRMV6JX6hcTY2W_F0zTK8cMicM0 EO7LL1GXfBNZ8BrPSLDWQjb_NkMEVJg6zrVJM_kICU1HXgS_SUJ2baxNkxGF ppAauESlXdI.AM3iYCxwXpRZtepEDY8Hgsg8p.DLcZspFKP6Pps8iM.hhlCZ gfEKewdz6nDwWs.s1zWW4YUmWtyec0ubfkLSOSGBYQv86nG26Yb69_iobrjq gzcl9DSAWhC_fyy2njrrS17yYQpBMt_GuBZIs2K2Qgy23hQg2dZtRuGMb79W v7nyw7W_CCXHOBVYaAX1QK9MHcw.QnMoXX1a3JDEwSldHp8WwCHtTjEIffsl EchzFhJtJDPEKvQRyI81an1YaAew_ac34DkonuizM2j6M.LkacdSZqErsKyx wjBt5ovtzrAmmTcuD5rY6EdGYWLjB2lblD27c3yl8_aGe6OaMAUkxRz6Qd3l aGUlvdKrQrP.ZTNXo7gwr059L2eu6E3BP6BR_d0WzgMhc.0pkdsrsMzWCfkJ Ogtq3oJt8tBqqmRywbz0CKCnTcjpcWPMFe_eYECooeFD1R8Ql53xEvxulKKf DC14_hLDn78W4qGB.PWegqlNI9zqWE1vIM7WwZqvfHfcaZLs813nEreSZED7 N4HfTdzeAZMXLWrfpP6sG2AI- Received: from [176.227.133.101] by web173006.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:54:20 GMT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,SGkgYWxsDQoNCkEgNjBwIGZlc3Rvb24gYXV0byBidWxiIGZyb20gSGFsZm9yZHMgaW4gc2VyaWVzIHdpdGggdGhlIGFudCB1cCBsZWFkIHNlcnZlcyBlcXVhbGx5IHdlbGwuIFRoZXJlIGlzIGdlbmVyYWxseSBubyBuZWVkIGZvciBhbnRlbm5hIGN1cnJlbnQgcHJlY2lzaW9uIG1lYXN1cmVtZW50IGl0cyByZWFsbHkgdHVuZSBmb3IgbWF4IHNtb2tlIGkuZS4gbWF4IGJyaWdodG5lc3MuIEEgcmVhc29uYWJseSBhY2N1cmF0ZSBzZWxmIGNhbGlicmF0aW5nIGluZGljYXRpb24gb2YgY3VycmVudCBpbiB0aGUgdXABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/897 YahooMailWebService/0.8.203.740 Message-ID: <1418644460.73583.YahooMailBasic@web173006.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:54:20 +0000 From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: 1bc6486c2865e7dc2ff7578e6d7fc226 Subject: Fw: LF: Antenna Current meters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by paranoid.lipkowski.org id sBFC3dJ7016616 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1500 Hi all A 60p festoon auto bulb from Halfords in series with the ant up lead serves equally well. There is generally no need for antenna current precision measurement its really tune for max smoke i.e. max brightness. A reasonably accurate self calibrating indication of current in the up lead subjectively judging the brightness relative to the DC current rating of the bulb. A more sophisticated set up can be achieved at extra expense. 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX Sent via my own personal Too-Way (two way) Earth Station to and from the Eutelsat Ka-band satellite  http://www.tooway.co.uk/  at approximately 172 degrees Azimuth in the Clarke belt owing to BTs 19th century cable technology inability to provide a good enough 21st century broadband service. I agree for this message to be passed on to BT Plc at 81 Newgate Street, London EC1A 7AJ  via the snoops at GCHQ Cheltenham, thanks for your cooperation it is appreciated. --- On Sun, 14/12/14, Alan Melia wrote: > From: Alan Melia > Subject: LF: Antenna Current meters > To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Sunday, 14 December, 2014, 16:31 > Hi all there has been discussion > about Aerial Current measurement on many > occassions in the past, and many have built versions of the > "Clothes Peg" > clip on ammeter. > > Dave Powis G4HUP announced a kit for an HF clip-on current > meter in the > December Radcom. After some prodding by me he has had a > sample tested at 136 > and 475kHz and as expected the instuments works well and > sensitivity is flat > from here up to 30MHz or more. The instructions include a > simple calibration > proceedure. Sensitivity down to 100mA FSD allows it to be > used with low > power systems where the use of a thermocouple RF meter is > not posssible. > > Dave also produces a board intended to break out the IF > signal from many > standard tranceivers for input to an SDR dongle. These were > intended to work > in the IF frequency range and use SMD parts to give an > add-in pcb little > larger than a postage stamp. A look at the circuit shows > that this is very > similar to the circuit used by Roelof (mini-whip) and others > for use in > E-field antennas. I believe the coupling capacitors will > need to be > increased in size, but I believe Dave can produce these for > LF to order, > either as a kit or completed board. He has not yet had a > chance to try this > out at LF but it's a chance to experiment at little cost. > Getting the > receive antenna away from habitation and power wiring  > is a good move at VLF > !. > > I have no pecunary interest but I admit that Dave is a good > friend and ex > work collegue, and an excellent engineer.  Look at his > web pages > http://g4hup.com >     email  g4hup@outlook.com > > Alan > G3NYK > > > >