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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Thanks Edgar for the link, it is very helpful. So the triple "PT"s are most likely from Petrovskoye (LO01cr, near Voronesh) rather than China - which is more believable. All the best, Markus (DF6NM) Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [74.6.132.123 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 2ee80849a5d572dbc974bb207a527753 Subject: Re: LF: Distant NDB's MF and PT on the DL0AO grabber Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_80884_305875719.1543661272523" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_80884_305875719.1543661272523 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Edgar for the link, it is very helpful. So the triple "PT"s=C2=A0are most likely=C2=A0from Petrovskoye (LO01cr, nea= r Voronesh) rather than China - which is more believable. All the best, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Edgar An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Sa, 1. Dez 2018 2:40 Betreff: Re: LF: Distant NDB's MF and PT on the DL0AO grabber Hi Markus, This link will help to answer your question. https://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/signal_list Type in the ID and frequency, click "Go" button and then click on the "log= s" title in the table and the entries should show if it has been received i= n Europe. Regards, Edgar Moonah, Tasmania. -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Markus Vester An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Sa, 1. Dez 2018 0:44 Betreff: LF: Distant NDB's MF and PT on the DL0AO grabber On the new DL0AO MF grabber, we can currently see=C2=A0two=C2=A0aircraft be= acons on 478 and 475 kHz. I ran an edditional=C2=A0fast spectrogram to catc= h the Morse id's at +- 1020 Hz. These turned out to be=C2=A0"MF MF" on 478 = kHz and "PT PT PT" on 475 kHz. Now Google thinks that "MF" is Larionovo (be= hind Moscow), and "PT" is Jingtai (China). Is this possible? https://vlf.u01.de/LF/LFgrabber/dl0ao_MF_PT_181130_2308.jpg Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ------=_Part_80884_305875719.1543661272523 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Edgar for the link, it is very helpful.

So= the triple "PT"s are most likely from Petrovskoye (LO01cr, near = Voronesh) rather than China - which is more believable.

All the best= ,
Markus (DF6NM)

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Edgar <ejt2@bigpond.com>
An: rsgb_lf_gro= up <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Sa, 1. D= ez 2018 2:40
Betreff: Re: LF: Distant NDB's MF and PT on the= DL0AO grabber

Hi Markus,

This link will help= to answer your question.

https://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu= /signal_list

Type in the ID and frequency, click "Go" button and t= hen click on the "logs" title in the table and the e= ntries should show if it has been received in Europe.

Regards, Edgar
Moonah, Tasmania.



-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilun= g-----
Von: Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
An: rsgb_lf_gr= oup <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Sa, 1. Dez 2018 0:4= 4
Betreff: LF: Distant NDB's MF and PT on the DL0AO grabber

On the new DL0AO MF grabber, we can currently see = ;two aircraft beacons on 478 and 475 kHz. I ran an edditional fas= t spectrogram to catch the Morse id's at +- 1020 Hz. These turned out to be=  "MF MF" on 478 kHz and "PT PT PT" on 475 kHz. Now Google thinks that = "MF" is Larionovo (behind Moscow), and "PT" is Jingtai (China). Is this pos= sible?

https://vlf.u01.de/LF/LFgrabber/dl0ao_MF_PT_181130_2308.jpg
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)


 

 

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