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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > > Thanks for the comment Mal > > With the help of Stefan, Alan, John and co who put up with a > lot of "OFF TOPIC" mails I now have a reliable work > around. I just have to re-address my mails either via my > address book or by manual input. It is only Blacksheep so > far that gives me this issue. The work around is not too bad > an imposition. > > Stefan's comments about lack of activity especially normal > CW on 472 are right. Personally I am not very excited by > WSPR etal. What gets me excited is say hearing Mal, Stefan > and/or Christian and co hammering away in QSO (in any > language). There used to be many more stations active on the > band in the old days here in the UK but not very many now > (none apart from one Sunday local sched):o( > > 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX > > > On Sun, 29/6/14, DK7FC > wrote: > > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Fw: Black balled .... me? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Sunday, 29 June, 2014, 10:10 > > True true. But i fear it will happen > again some day, due to several pseudo super features. > NEW does not automatically mean BETTER, older OMs should > know that. But obviously the advertisements are doing a > great job. > BTW, i remember the argumentation that the new features of > yahoo will help to rise newcomers on the LF bands. But > where > are they now? Maybe in the web instead on the bands, but > not > even that! > > 73! > > Am 29.06.2014 10:00, schrieb mal hamilton: > > LF/MF > > My advice from the beginning was not to get involved > with Yahoo and stick to Blacksheep which I have always > found > to be totally reliable. > > Others like DK7FC agreed. Those shouting loudest for > Yahoo at the time have all EXPIRED or FADED AWAY !!!! > > I now rest my case > > de Mal/G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:56 PM > > Subject: LF: Re: Fw: Black balled .... me? > > > > > [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.82.96.79 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (m0fmt[at]yahoo.co.uk) 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: b14bcaca65d4b584f77d02a84d381cb4 Subject: Fw: Re: LF: Re: Re: Fw: Black balled .... me? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false >=20 > Thanks for the comment Mal >=20 > With the help of Stefan, Alan, John and co who put up with a > lot of=A0 "OFF TOPIC" mails I now have a reliable work > around. I just have to re-address my mails either via my > address book or by manual input. It is only Blacksheep so > far that gives me this issue. The work around is not too bad > an imposition. >=20 > Stefan's comments about lack of activity especially normal > CW on 472 are right. Personally I am not very excited by > WSPR etal. What gets me excited is say hearing Mal, Stefan > and/or Christian and co hammering away in QSO (in any > language). There used to be many more stations active on the > band in the old days here in the UK but not very many now > (none apart from one Sunday local sched)............:o( >=20 > 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX >=20 > -------------------------------------------- > On Sun, 29/6/14, DK7FC <73dk7fc@googlemail.com> > wrote: >=20 > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Fw: Black balled .... me? > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Sunday, 29 June, 2014, 10:10 > =20 > True true. But i fear it will happen > again some day, due to several pseudo super features. > NEW does not automatically mean BETTER, older OMs should > know that. But obviously the advertisements are doing a > great job. > BTW, i remember the argumentation that the new features of > yahoo will help to rise newcomers on the LF bands. But > where > are they now? Maybe in the web instead on the bands, but > not > even that! > =20 > 73! > =20 > Am 29.06.2014 10:00, schrieb mal hamilton: > > LF/MF > > My advice from the beginning was not to get involved > with Yahoo and stick to Blacksheep which I have always > found > to be totally reliable. > > Others like DK7FC agreed. Those shouting loudest for > Yahoo at the time have all EXPIRED or FADED AWAY !!!! > > I now rest my case > > de Mal/G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:56 PM > > Subject: LF: Re: Fw: Black balled .... me? > >=20 > >=20 > >> Hi Pete we have been declaring for a long time > now > that we have no control over Blacksheep! So we could not > "black-ball" you even if we should really want to :-)) > >>=20 > >> There has been a long running problem with > certain > ISP Yahoo being one. In past years the majority of forged > address spam came from Yahoo, gmail and others. The have > now > instituted some form of authorisation which causes a lot > of > their legitimate mail to be bounced by other sites. > >>=20 > >> You may remember before the Yahoo group was set > up, > and we still had access to the administator, that he > implimented a facility which was available to check that > mail was genuinely from the quoted address, the immediate > result was mail from Yahoo, aol, gmail and a few other > started bouncing because they wouldnt use the facility > themselves....the blacksheep admin had to take it off > again > to allow normal operation. It now seems they are having so > many complaints they have started using it or something > similar and unmarked mails from blacksheep are being > bounced > by your Yahoo account!!...........or its something like > that. > >>=20 > >> Alan > >> G3NYK > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "M0FMT" > >> To: > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:37 PM > >> Subject: LF: Fw: Black balled .... me? > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> --- On Tue, 24/6/14, M0FMT > wrote: > >>=20 > >>> From: M0FMT > >>> Subject: Black balled .... me? > >>> To: rsbg_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >>> Date: Tuesday, 24 June, 2014, 19:31 > >>> Hi all > >>> All my mails are coming back from Blacksheep > and have done > >>> for ages now. Have I been black balled on > this > reflector? I > >>> don't mind but it would be nice to know and I > won't bother > >>> in future......}o( > >>> Who knows???? > >>> 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX > >>=20 > >>=20 > >=20 > >=20 > =20 >=20 >