Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v2RDXj7U016282 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:33:46 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1csUjG-0005HK-Ai for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 14:30:38 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1csUjF-0005HB-Q5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 14:30:37 +0100 Received: from nm13-vm9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([98.136.218.154]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1csUjC-0002IZ-Rq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 14:30:36 +0100 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=yahoo.ca Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s2048; t=1490621429; bh=vtpMob1W4NewMFFapR6I3YHtiXoxhDZ8uTePr7V8SO4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=a7bTbMwACyM5/3BayS8Dbk888cDkGZCKbXVjFM8VvUn+bHjNgbhV41iziEWF5Kr4AW65GTcAIN6PneYC+y2A4Yg5H3lrgtTJ6O9voQLnD60NzFDRZqkY2DhOeDtcaz/UGUUrW3dlFielyi6EaRG84LSAq2h/TO/2BZeEFZ+X11TVaILH+JQ2v0oHwd8nUPd0Odi40vjENK8AFMnqI19fy6GxKttz9Yup/1G4JnRIRXkuwhjqH90VQ32xZXYR7DwpMD5mTGA5gcwoSTpqIX7oV24iWfWsqv/7YAFobupAstNCNwa8aRJiJvVcpSkIsCjzF7SmqWoZ9iM702jZDVRv1A== Received: from [98.137.12.55] by nm13.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2017 13:30:29 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.232] by tm15.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2017 13:30:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1040.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2017 13:30:29 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 239249.63355.bm@omp1040.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: c5e86RYVM1kgSqqSyBbzH3QEjXaILb_2VUR6la8GT6ZExW_3Nl4FLi6IP5to.oG LzWK1AknHeVlq8wuDarUlC_2gJf1zNyPeXK4_zFRTGvdM0As7pNrecoXyJ2zxUSgup1HGPnuba3L HSEamHEjJ.1c.TrpFC8OMXVEP9fDXOGpY2Q66htGfKqEOMR8._7Syb3Avuk8jbHB_M2IH0Vcnb_F EPRdr7AjuoGD6XvxOk7TQrUSY.vgB4VrFnQCbC44FQMaOx8skyFtaSiB32eTD.hh_.qt8DkI1EdS r3RwaTvo84fyFoDSWzoy_zu5EPuzeOaj19cKR.9OxCOee.9y_wZ8dI35zyxSeLL1UPn9KC4omc3x 6om2KmrCocmlX2NkqZGU6e0xPMrIRi39zLV7eJ1YZIXyQJzlxqcrs9HIpm112C4DsJDs7BJE3UOm Pipt1AD2E.LJGGmFbekZMMf9XS6BgNN6HAP3..CLtNGS9jcvVN4iZKIkYJM6ZPmB817jmWDxNRAE xHXE- Received: from jws300008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com by sendmailws103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:30:28 +0000; 1490621428.744 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:30:28 +0000 (UTC) From: John Fisher To: Cc: Message-ID: <1399660538.5894858.1490621428257@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1399660538.5894858.1490621428257.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Scan-Signature: fc152e7304849b9a177649b85aea9f41 Subject: Re: LF: Stacking toroids Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lipkowski.org id v2RDXj7U016282 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11032 Hi Jay, Can you recommend a way to compensate for the doubled inductance? Also, I'd be interested in two driver boards if you get more made. Thanks, John VA3VVV -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 3/25/17, jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote: Subject: Re: LF: Stacking toroids To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Received: Saturday, March 25, 2017, 7:32 PM Chris   Your original post describes the core as "warmish" after a WSPR session ... maybe some clarification of what temperature "warmish" is would be helpful. A core that runs 'warm' should not be cause for great concern ... most core materials can tolerate even moderate heating just fine. 'Hot', on the other hand, would of course be another matter. As pointed out in an earlier post, some of the heating may be from losses in the copper windings.   One disadvantage to stacking cores (keeping the same number of turns) is that the winding inductance doubles from the original design. This will likely increase the leakage inductance ... one negative effect being an increase in switching transient ringing.    Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2   p.s. I'm looking into getting more driver boards made ...