Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dh05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dh05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.25]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDC093-86554dc7b03a3ad; Mon, 09 May 2011 05:13:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dh05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 270563800012E; Mon, 9 May 2011 05:13:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QJMVs-00047l-BW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 May 2011 10:12:24 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QJMVr-00047c-Fu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 May 2011 10:12:23 +0100 Received: from nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.234]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QJMVp-0003rD-VY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 May 2011 10:12:23 +0100 Received: from [98.139.91.69] by nm28.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2011 09:12:14 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.44] by tm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2011 09:12:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1044.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2011 09:12:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 353477.52284.bm@omp1044.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 61538 invoked by uid 60001); 9 May 2011 09:12:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304932334; bh=WlA/WYXj55yX7ARlgjlN+8+8vEWeVTYKAZh02WaWTXs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oS/02hkkLTUQjxOE/rv0zKSDc5EeOPQmXXGlK8YfhXVWZmTUN8vtmMsJdrG9BNbvWI8K3KtXefwAqgaAbWJvggVC9Zp11NxL02xIUyfQ6eoC4Yo2c+DfwfDIX5l8E0uJil2oBYWkxlYW94G2ZosFUaNpf+KPE7+VFDuZOR2cHr0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=X1SKGWRaE/70iSkaJBxhVzu612mdjpcvqoaGBA4LrHRJEhdNAGbHvJeVeQ0uSdl+o7r/bFZ8lTqQS8OF7fGCcXB2wU8kXD+tQrXh6pEbi+AIJdMVnFK1wlv0eDhWDqh1Qs3KLvwm3WWys899YYpy493kbMBsCTAdh0xUdGtDl4Y=; Message-ID: <13974.61295.qm@web111918.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERFGn04VM1mkbOu6REbt.Tbv5aF3PqpjZAJF0Mmsurnm4Bg LnlJhwwnS7p2Pp0xZm6TC4oi62.5on.fEoYYEN5b2SZYvIMtLBxg7dKnssnS EzQRFuRKvIDCYQxakcReCpG8FgSf37cRpHOinlXmlGOSegfQvUXF7CunCk6l 7iPcsFgXX5x5uRAX8o32JKb98BKtE7bKWMFmL6N9_WrzCvuzPRV.VajbbhCo N7a7ExWzkcBe5csyT4SLZv0xvydBDJFM5keR8s82qXUZl2jeInIGU99Vb4Mt 3qtET.yAeFJaNTZ87YqpkOpyGlDPapii1S.wVIQa6N5ngDdAUv1qpt9UgI1n dUsnbRN58rcHxuDFzbGzP28QOQPopHX_Jtn8Y2JqjxeFpRGflmwmX38gEPRz OmyFIbLEtoea2K80- Received: from [151.99.187.181] by web111918.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 May 2011 02:12:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 References: <4DC28736.5070405@talktalk.net> <8CDD93ACCC1EFE6-153C-39E0A@Webmail-d111.sysops.aol.com> <4DC2A264.5050606@talktalk.net> <822009.51309.qm@web111905.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4DC2A9C5.2050209@talktalk.net> <4DC2CAAD.70705@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <297824.60173.qm@web111914.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4DC71EB2.5010005@talktalk.net> <4DC7A312.9070503@dsl.pipex.com> <668413.2745.qm@web111912.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4DC7A9A1.6090005@talktalk.net> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 02:12:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniele Tincani To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4DC7A9A1.6090005@talktalk.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: ELF: ZEVS transmitting from 0800UTC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1401079000-1304932333=:61295" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m262.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41194dc7b0382b30 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --0-1401079000-1304932333=:61295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Eddie, I didn't realize you are the author of the web page that I mentioned in my= =20 message below :-) My compliments also=A0for the very nice grabber page. Regards D. ________________________________ From: qrss To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 10:45:21 AM Subject: Re: ELF: ZEVS transmitting from 0800UTC Hi Daniele / Chris et al I will take a good look at=A0 the ZEVS breakfast code in moment, I have a= burst of=20 noise covering the start bit. OK on the 11.7Hz Daniele, I will take a close look there too to try and=20 establish if it is a received signal. These cariers are too stable to be= from=20 local devices I think. 73 Eddie G3ZJO On 09/05/2011 09:30, Daniele Tincani wrote:=20 Hello Chris, > >I have no doubt that that 11.7Hz-spaced lines=A0on my SpecLab screen=A0ha= ve a local=20 >origin. I am just curious about their source. > >Following web page http://g3zjo-radio.blog.co.uk/=A0mentions 11.7Hz as on= e of ELF=20 >carriers visibile at the author's location ("At my urban location there= are=20 >several carriers visible, 5.9Hz,8.8Hz,11.7Hz,16Hz, 23Hz and 32Hz") but it= does=20 >not tell anything about the possible origin. > >Regards >D. > > > > > ________________________________ From: Chris Dillon >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 10:17:22 AM >Subject: ELF: ZEVS transmitting from 0800UTC > >Hi all - ZEVS transmitting on schedule from 0800 UTC this morning.=20 > >Eddie, Daniele - I don't have an 80Hz carrier here at IO92vf. I'll look= out for=20 >the others.=20 > > >Chris=20 > > >On 08/05/2011 23:52, qrss wrote:=20 >Sorry Daniele no idea 1.7Hz and multiples. >> >>Both Stefan and I have an 80Hz constant carrier, I am also pretty sure= about=20 >>16Hz 32Hz and 64Hz being received signals. >>Perhaps the growing band of listeners can confirm these as also received= =20 >>elsewhere. >> >>Eddie >> >>On 08/05/2011 23:40, Daniele Tincani wrote:=20 >>I see a constant trace at 82Hz, but it appears to be 7 x 11.7Hz, as I se= e other=20 >>similar traces at 6 x 11.7Hz (70.28Hz) and 8 x 11.7Hz (93.72Hz), etc. Do= es=20 >>anyone know about a possible origin of these 11.7Hz-spaced carriers (or= =20 >>harmonics)? >>>Regards >>>Daniele > --0-1401079000-1304932333=:61295 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Eddie,
I didn't realize you are the author of the web page that I mentioned= in my message below :-)
My compliments also for the very nice grabber page.
Regards
D.
=

From: qrss <qrss@talkta= lk.net>
To: rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org
Sent:<= /B> Mon, May 9, 2011 10:45:21 AM
S= ubject: Re: ELF: ZEVS transmitting from 0800UTC

H= i Daniele / Chris et al

I will take a good look at  the ZEVS= breakfast code in moment, I have a burst of noise covering the start bit.=

OK on the 11.7Hz Daniele, I will take a close look there too to tr= y and establish if it is a received signal. These cariers are too stable= to be from local devices I think.

73 Eddie G3ZJO




On 09/05/2011 09:30, Daniele Tincani wrote:=20
Hello Chris,
 
I have no doubt that that 11.7Hz-spaced lines on my SpecLab scre= en have a local origin. I am just curious about their source.
 
Following web page http://g3zjo-radio.blog.co.uk/ mentions 11.7H= z as one of ELF carriers visibile at the author's location ("At my urb= an location there are several carriers visible, 5.9Hz,8.8Hz,11.7Hz= ,16Hz, 23Hz and 32Hz") but it does not tell anything about= the possible origin.
 
Regards
D.

=

From: Chris Dillon <c= .r.dillon@dsl.pipex.com>
To= : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 10:17:22 AM
<= B>Subject:
ELF: ZEVS transmit= ting from 0800UTC

Hi all - ZEVS transmitting on schedule fro= m 0800 UTC this morning.

Eddie, Daniele - I don't have an 80Hz car= rier here at IO92vf. I'll look out for the others.

Chris

<= BR>On 08/05/2011 23:52, qrss wrote:=20
Sorry Daniele no idea 1.7Hz and multiples.
Both Stefan and I have an 80Hz constant carrier, I am also pretty sure= about 16Hz 32Hz and 64Hz being received signals.
Perhaps the growing= band of listeners can confirm these as also received elsewhere.

Ed= die

On 08/05/2011 23:40, Daniele Tincani wrote:=20
I see a constant trace at 82Hz, but it appears to be 7 x 11.7Hz, as= I see other similar traces at 6 x 11.7Hz (70.28Hz) and 8 x 11.7Hz (93.72H= z), etc. Does anyone know about a possible origin of these 11.7Hz-spaced= carriers (or harmonics)?
Regards
Daniele



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