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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I do know that Ofcom allow amateur experimentation below 8.3 kHz without a licence -on the understanding that there is no(harmonics etc.) escaping from the experiments at any frequency above the 8.3 kHz limit. In other words NO signal must escape that is higher than that 8.3 kHz limit -That is it!! -end of!! Dave [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.82.96.50 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (evad_hine[at]yahoo.co.uk) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 7f2e5481aa97b3cbff3d653a1b2ddfbd Subject: Re: LF: Below 8.3kHz in the UK freuency allocations Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="188004414-2008067379-1390936735=:43137" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --188004414-2008067379-1390936735=:43137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I do know that Ofcom allow amateur experimentation below 8.3 kHz without a = licence=A0-on the understanding that there is no(harmonics etc.) escaping f= rom the experiments at any frequency above the 8.3 kHz limit. In other word= s NO signal must escape that is higher than that=A08.3=A0kHz limit -That is= it!! -end of!!=A0Dave=A0=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From= : g3zjo =0ATo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0ASent: = Tuesday, 28 January 2014, 14:52=0ASubject: Re: LF: Below 8.3kHz in the UK f= reuency allocations=0A =0A=0A=0AHi Roger=0A=0AOn 28/01/2014 14:06, Roger L= apthorn wrote: =0A=0A>=0AQuoting from the entry in the published UK frequen= cy allocations table:=0A>=0A>=0A>"Bands below 8.3 kHz are not allocated wit= hin the United =0A>Kingdom"=0A> =0A> =0A>In the UK I take this to mean ANY= ONE can operate below 8.3kHz without licence or NoV permits being needed, a= ssuming no interference to services above 8.3kHz.=0A>=0A> =0AIts odd isn't= it, a case of how you read it. There have been thoughts stated elsewhere r= ecently,=A0 personally I don't think it means.=0ABands below 8.3 kHz are no= t allocated within the United Kingdom, so=0A it is a free for all.=0A=0A= It could be.=0ABands below 8.3 kHz are not allocated within the United King= dom, and=0A so are not protected from interference.=0AOr=0ABands below 8= .3 kHz are not allocated within the United Kingdom and=0A never will be.= =0AOr=0ABands below 8.3 kHz are not allocated within the United Kingdom and= =0A must be kept clear at all times.=0AOr=0ABands below 8.3 kHz are not = allocated within the United Kingdom as=0A they are receive only and used= for research.=0A=0AMore words are needed for clarity, maybe its not specif= ied in order=0A to do keep control of what goes on there, the total oppo= site of a=0A free for all.=0A=0A73 Eddie --188004414-2008067379-1390936735=:43137 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I do know that Ofcom allow amate= ur experimentation below 8.3 kHz without a licence -on the understandi= ng that there is no(harmonics etc.) escaping from the experiments at any fr= equency above the 8.3 kHz limit. In other words NO signal must escape that = is higher than that 8.3 kHz limit -That is it!! -end of!! Da= ve 
From: g3zjo <= ;g3zjo@psk31.plus.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014, 14:52
Subject: Re: LF: Below 8.3kHz in the UK fre= uency allocations

=0A =0A=0A =0A =0A
=0A Hi Roger
=0A=
=0A On 28/01/2014 14:06, Roger Lapthorn wrote:=0A =0A
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=0A Quoting from the entry in= the published UK frequency=0A allocations table:
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"Bands=0A below 8.3 kHz are not allocated with= in the United
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Kingdom"=
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In= the UK I take this to mean ANYONE can operate below=0A 8.3kHz wit= hout licence or NoV permits being needed, assuming=0A no interfere= nce to services above 8.3kHz.
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=0A =0A Its odd isn't it, a case of how you read = it. There have been=0A thoughts stated elsewhere recently,  persona= lly I don't think it=0A means.
=0A Bands below 8.3 kHz are not all= ocated within the United Kingdom, so=0A it is a free for all.
=0A =
=0A It could be.
=0A Bands below 8.3 kHz are not allocated wit= hin the United Kingdom, and=0A so are not protected from interference.=0A Or
=0A Bands below 8.3 kHz are not allocated within the Unit= ed Kingdom and=0A never will be.
=0A Or
=0A Bands below 8.3 = kHz are not allocated within the United Kingdom and=0A must be kept clea= r at all times.
=0A Or
=0A Bands below 8.3 kHz are not allocate= d within the United Kingdom as=0A they are receive only and used for res= earch.
=0A
=0A More words are needed for clarity, maybe its no= t specified in order=0A to do keep control of what goes on there, the to= tal opposite of a=0A free for all.
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=0A 73 Eddie
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