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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:12:54 +0100 (BST)
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Subject: Re: LF: PIC based designs
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Hi all =0A=A0=0AThis is an open letter to all PIC based designers form a fr=
ustrated constructor.......=0A=A0=0A"....=0A=A0=0A=0AAs with all constructi=
on articles that contain a Micro Processor chip is that =A0the one vital in=
gredient to make it is the HEX code. It is as vital as the 0.01 mF decoupli=
ng capacitor that goes across the Vcc to ground.=A0=A0=0A=0AIt is IMHO and =
most guys I have spoken to over the air that a construction article that ha=
s a PIC in the BOM is so much wasted paper. The Radcom being a typical maga=
zine that delights in publishing the schematic of a PIC based project but d=
oesn't publish the Hex script. My guess is=A0the so called editors have no =
construction experience and do not understand the significance of what they=
 are publishing. I=A0think peoples hearts sink when they look down the BOM =
and see 16F84 or what ever. =0A=0AThe=A0people who look at these sorts of a=
rticles are constructor like me not Code designers otherwise they wouldn't =
need a construction article at all, because they would be busily designing =
there own code .... wouldn't they.=A0I have a G3--- =A0friend=A0who is a gr=
eat constructor. Nothing in his shack is commercial ready made. He has a pr=
odigious output of excellent TX and RX designs, keyers and SDR projects, no=
thing with a PIC. I have encouraged him to take advantage of the facility t=
o be found in a PIC based project but he considers them black magic.=A0Beca=
use of the RADCOM and other mags that trot these PIC based projects out wit=
h little concern if any one actually builds them they are referred to as sp=
ace fillers of little interest and are intensely frustrating. This sort of =
incomplete article can be=A0an ego trip for the writer with the publishing =
editor oblivious to what is in the big blank square in the middle of the sc=
hematic.=0A=0ASo this mail is an appeal to you and all other PIC based desi=
gners please, please publish the HEX code. It doesn't take much space on a =
page and simple=A0for someone to scan the code and use word recognition sof=
tware to convert it along with a bit of manual editing if necessary.=A0Othe=
rwise I would say don't bother publishing your designs.=0A=0ASorry for the =
venting but just going through yet another "Oh B*!$$er it's got a PIC in it=
" article that looked promising.=0A=0A73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
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arent"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">This is an open letter to all PIC based =
designers form a frustrated constructor.......</SPAN></div>
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_2_17_1377074874614_95>As with all construction articles that contain a Mic=
ro Processor chip is that &nbsp;the one vital ingredient to make it is the =
HEX code. It is as vital as the 0.01 mF decoupling capacitor that goes acro=
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n article that has a PIC in the BOM is so much wasted paper. The Radcom bei=
ng a typical magazine that delights in publishing the schematic of a PIC ba=
sed project but doesn't publish the Hex script. My guess is&nbsp;the so cal=
led editors have no construction experience and do not understand the signi=
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me not Code designers otherwise they wouldn't need a construction article a=
t all, because they would be busily designing there own code .... wouldn't =
they.&nbsp;I have a G3--- &nbsp;friend&nbsp;who is a great constructor. Not=
hing in his shack is commercial ready made. He has a prodigious output of e=
xcellent TX and RX designs, keyers and SDR projects, nothing with a PIC. I =
have encouraged him to take advantage of the facility to be found in a PIC =
based project but he considers them black magic.&nbsp;Because of the RADCOM=
 and other mags that trot these PIC based projects out with little concern =
if any one actually builds them they are referred to as space fillers of li=
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