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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Pat there's something up with your e-mail because it keeps sending the same thing twice? i.e. two e-mails for the price of one. 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX > > From: pat >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Cc: M0FMT >Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 18:53 >Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz > > > >Well, you might have been happy, Pete. I discovered that the family cat's whiskers wouldn't work with a bit of coke and we had to go back to a pair of baked bean cans and string! > > > > >On 11/04/13 16:20, M0FMT wrote: > >And we all live in a hole in the road but we were happy!!.....:0) >> >> >>73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX >> >>From: pat mailto:g4gvw@aol.com >>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>Cc: M0FMT mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk >>>Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 13:06 >>>Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz >>> >>> >>> >>>And Wireless Set No.17 for £2:19:6 (2Volt accumulator and HT Battery 10/- extra) >>> >>>And we're all getting older! >>> >>>73 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On 11/04/13 12:18, M0FMT wrote: >>> >>>Hi Graham >>>> >>>>How young you are my introduction to Tottenham Court Road (Proops?) , Lisles Street (GW Smiths), Charring Cross and The Edgeware Road about 1956. Aaaaah those were the days. learnt a lot about Radio, Life, the Universe and everything there...... hee! >>>>Got my R107 from Lisle Street with money save from my apprentices pay. Carried it (abt 1 CWT) via bus to Kings Cross in the days when the conductor would jump off the bus and give you had to get it on board........ imagine that on a "Bendy Bus" today. See http://www.retinascope.co.uk/lislestreet.html for the full story. >>>> >>>>OK on the stick info yes but I am CW only really can't get too excited about sterile data although as you know I do partake occasionally. >>>> >>>>73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX >>>> >>>>From: Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk >>>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 11:52 >>>>>Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>R Pete >>>>> >>>>>Well , its possible to use the [...] Content analysis details: (3.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [77.238.189.192 listed in list.dnswl.org] 2.2 TVD_SUBJ_ACC_NUM Subject has spammy looking monetary reference 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (m0fmt[at]yahoo.co.uk) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 1.0 FREEMAIL_REPLYTO Reply-To/From or Reply-To/body contain different freemails X-Scan-Signature: a4031185e0b5c4183d56638d9d82e1d0 Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="313692494-800994101-1365704237=:75794" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=AMATEUR_PORN,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404a5166fe81153f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --313692494-800994101-1365704237=:75794 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pat there's something up with your e-mail because it keeps sending the same= thing twice? i.e. two e-mails for the price of one.=0A=A073 es GL Pete M0F= MT IO91UX=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> From: pat =0A>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Cc: M0FMT =0A>Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 18:53=0A>Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ= or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>Well, y= ou might have been happy, Pete. I discovered that the family cat's whiskers= wouldn't work with a bit of coke and we had to go back to a pair of baked = bean cans and string!=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>On 11/04/13 16:20, M0FMT wrote:=0A= > =0A>And we all live in a hole in the road=A0but we were happy!!.....:0)= =0A>>=0A>> =0A>>73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A>>=0A>>From: pat mailto:g4gvw@= aol.com=0A>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>>Cc: M0FMT mailto:m0fmt@= yahoo.co.uk =0A>>>Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 13:06=0A>>>Subject: Re: LF= : Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz=0A>>> =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A= >>>And Wireless Set No.17 for =A32:19:6 (2Volt accumulator and HT Battery 1= 0/- extra)=0A>>>=0A>>>And we're all getting older!=0A>>>=0A>>>73 =0A>>>=0A>= >>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>On 11/04/13 12:18, M0FMT wrote:=0A>>> =0A>>>Hi Graham = =0A>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>How young you are my introduction to Tottenham Court Road= (Proops?) , Lisles Street (GW Smiths), Charring Cross =A0and The Edgeware = Road=A0 about 1956. Aaaaah those were the days. learnt a lot about Radio,= =A0Life, the Universe and everything there...... hee! =0A>>>>Got my R107 fr= om Lisle Street with money save from my apprentices pay. Carried it=A0 (abt= 1 CWT) via bus to Kings Cross in the days when the conductor would jump of= f the bus and give you had to get it on board........ imagine that on a "Be= ndy Bus" today. See http://www.retinascope.co.uk/lislestreet.html=A0for the= full story. =0A>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>OK on the stick info yes but I am CW only re= ally can't get too excited about sterile data although as you know I do par= take occasionally.=0A>>>> =0A>>>>73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A>>>>=0A>>>>Fr= om: Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk=0A>>>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org =0A>>>>>Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 11:52=0A>>>>>Subject: Re: LF:= Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz =0A>>>>> =0A>>>>>=0A>>= >>>=0A>>>>>R Pete =0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>Well , its possible to=A0 use the=A0 eme= rgency=A0 vfo=A0 , but that=A0 results=A0 in a very=A0 unstable=A0 signal ,= I=A0=A0 remember=A0 down the=A0 Tottenham court road , there=A0 where=A0 t= ea chests of=A0 crystals , but that=A0 was=A0 1970 .. seems=A0 a=A0 lot=A0 = of the=A0 traditional=A0 firms have=A0 closed , =0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>One=A0 of = the=A0 =A35=A0 dds=A0 with=A0 a driver=A0 would=A0 work , but=A0 they=A0 wa= nt to=A0 keep=A0 it=A0 standard =0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>DS -=A0=A0 That's really= =A0 the=A0 'correct'=A0 situation=A0 ,=A0 that=A0 -33 db decode, -3=A0db=A0= lower than=A0 normal =A0was=A0 a=A0 good=A0 indication =A0 that=A0 the=A0 = system=A0 is=A0 working ,=A0=A0=A0over ranging=A0 the=A0 a/d=A0 is the=A0 o= nly=A0 problem . I think=A0 dynamic=A0 range is=A0 60 d b after=A0 processi= ng=A0 , is it=A0=A0 3 db per=A0 bit=A0 ?=A0 8 bits=A0 , 24=A0 db + 3=A0=A0 = that's=A0=A0 27 dB ?=A0 500:1 ? =A0 , but=A0=A0 by=A0 removing=A0=A0=A0 qty= =A0 2=A0 mixers=A0=A0 and=A0 2=A0 oscillators=A0=A0 , [ may=A0 be 3=A0 osci= llators=A0 1 , hf-up-conv=A0 2 , pll=A0 conv osc=A0 3=A0 ref osc )=A0 that= =A0 is a=A0 lot=A0 of=A0 noise + jitter=A0 removed=A0 from the=A0 signal=A0= path as well=A0 as=A0=A0 imd=A0 from=A0 2=A0 mixers , I found=A0 a attenua= tor=A0 helped=A0 for=A0 mw=A0 and=A0 I have=A0 a=A0 mw-filter=A0 , which=A0= cleaned=A0 up=A0 sw=A0 bands=A0 ......=A0 nice to=A0 have a=A0 panoramic= =A0 display , 2=A0 mhz this time , the=A0 ra17=A0 was 1 mhz=A0 and=A0=A0 28= =A0 valves + 20 ish =A0> in the=A0 radio=A0 =A0 =0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>73-G. =0A>>= >>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>>From: M0FMT =0A>>>>>Sent: Thursday, April 11, = 2013 10:47 AM =0A>>>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>>>>Subject: Re= : LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz =0A>>>>>=0A>>>>= > =0A>>>>>OK Graham =0A>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>Thought it was home brew retro.....= ..... I am in that mode and think everbody else is! What do you do at the m= oment inject a Sig Genny? =0A>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>Have you checked the net=A0or= checked out Vincent - QuartzLab etc? =0A>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>Anyway what's th= at master osc circuit. I build from old RADCOM (pre 1975 when they publishe= d real amateur radio) and PW,QST etal. I use modern xtals with no known iss= ues. Well trying to get third overtone for 10m not to chirp is an issue wit= h me at the moment.=A0 =0A>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>OK yes got a stick on its way di= dn't want to tear up my existing upconverter design. But not sure there is = much wrong with the UC approach it works for me. But want to try the direct= approach. Do you get much Cross mod and IM products?=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>> =0A>>= >>>73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>From: Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fz= k.fsnet.co.uk=0A>>>>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>>>>>Sent: Thurs= day, 11 April 2013, 0:47=0A>>>>>>Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTAL= S Range 236.25 236.75 KHz =0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>Ok Pete =0A= >>>>>>=0A>>>>>>Q where to=A0 have=A0 them=A0 made=A0 ? =0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>T= he=A0 set=A0 , Marconi=A0 Ocean span 1950's=A0 valve=A0 tx=A0 =A0needs=A0 t= he=A0 big=A0 rock's=A0 as the=A0 oscillator=A0 pass's=A0=A0 quite a=A0 lot= =A0 of=A0 power=A0 via them ...hc6u=A0 are=A0 no=A0 good=A0 , drive level i= s very low - the ones fitted=A0 are the=A0wired- gold=A0 flashed=A0 ones=A0= , so=A0 cannot=A0 etch=A0 into the=A0 band ... =0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>the=A0 g= ang=A0 want =A0to=A0 keep=A0 it=A0 standard =0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>73 -G. =0A>= >>>>>=0A>>>>>>Ps=A0 waiting=A0 for=A0 qty-3=A0 =A36=A0=A0 dongles : ) =0A>>= >>>>=0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>>From: M0FMT =0A>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 201= 3 11:43 PM =0A>>>>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>>>>>Subject: Re:= LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz =0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>= >> =0A>>>>>>Hi =0A>>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>>If you want to spend a small fortune = get them cut. However build a Mixer VXO from El cheapo standard xtals and o= r old PMR rocks. Then at your next rally buy a couple of Screw together 10x= j or FT243 rocks of any frequency and put the El-cheapo xtals inside. And H= ey Presto you have Retro rocks. =0A>>>>>>I have a small all valve 472 tx th= at uses 6.00 -6.472=3D0.472 vxo-able a couple of kc/s 12ax7-6am6-6cl6=3D 4w= attso/p. Local QRP rig. =0A>>>>>>Hope this helps =0A>>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>>73 e= s GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>From: Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsn= et.co.uk=0A>>>>>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesda= y, 10 April 2013, 20:30=0A>>>>>>>Subject: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Ra= nge 236.25 236.75 KHz =0A>>>>>>> =0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>Wanted=A0 10= XJ=A0 or=A0 FT243=A0 XTALS=A0=A0 Range=A0=A0 236.25=A0=A0=A0 236.75=A0 KHz= =A0=A0=A0 =0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>Q=A0 Is there=A0 any=A0 manufacture=A0 of=A0= =A0 crystals=A0 in this=A0 range=A0 ? =0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>Or=A0 Surplus=A0= =A0=A0 items=A0=A0 available=A0 =0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>QTY=A01=A0 or=A0 2=A0 = off=A0 =0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>TNX- Graham =0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>G0NBD =0A>>>>= >>>=0A>>>>>>> =0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>=0A>>>>> =0A>>= >=0A>>>=0A>>>-- =0A73 de pat g4gvw=0Aes gd dx=0Aqth nr Felixstowe=0AEast Co= ast UK =0A>>>=0A>>> =0A>=0A>=0A>-- =0A73 de pat g4gvw=0Aes gd dx=0A= qth nr Felixstowe=0AEast Coast UK =0A>=0A> --313692494-800994101-1365704237=:75794 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pat there's something= up with your e-mail because it keeps sending the same thing twice? i.e. tw= o e-mails for the price of one.
 73 es GL = Pete M0FMT IO91UX
From: pat <g4gvw@= aol.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
Cc: M0FMT <= m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 18:53
Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 2= 36.25 236.75 KHz

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Well, you might have been happy, Pete.=0A= I discovered that the family cat's whiskers wouldn't work with a=0A = bit of coke and we had to go back to a pair of baked bean cans and=0A = string!
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From: pat=0A mailto:g4gvw@aol.com
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=0A = Cc:=0A = M0FMT mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk
=0A = Sent:=0A = Thursday, 11 April 2013, 13:06
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And=0A Wireless Set No.17= for =A32:19:6 (2Volt=0A accumulator and HT Battery = 10/- extra)
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=0A = On 11/04/13 12:18, M0FMT wrote:
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How young you are my introduction=0A = to Tottenham Court Road (Proops?) , Lisles=0A = Street (GW Smiths), Charring Cross  and=0A = The Edgeware Road  about 1956. Aaaaah=0A = those were the days. learnt<= /span>=0A a lot about Radio, Life,= the Universe and=0A everything there...... he= e!
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Got my R107 from Lis= le Street with=0A money save from my apprentic= es pay.=0A Carried it  (abt 1 CWT) via bu= s to Kings=0A Cross in the days when the condu= ctor would=0A jump off the bus and give you ha= d to get=0A it on board........ imagine that o= n a=0A "Bendy Bus" today. See http://www.retinascope.co.uk/lislestreet.html for=0A=0A = the full story.
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OK= on the stick info yes but I am=0A CW only rea= lly can't get too excited about=0A sterile dat= a although as you know I do=0A partake occasionally.
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From:=0A G= raham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
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=0A = Sent:=0A = Thursday, 11 April 2013, 11:52
=0A = Subject:<= /b> Re:=0A LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XT= ALS=0A Range 236.25 236.75 KHz
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Well , its possible to  use=0A= the  emergency  vfo&nbs= p; , but=0A that  results&nbs= p; in a very =0A unstable&nbs= p; signal , I  =0A remem= ber  down the  Tottenham=0A = court road , there  where  tea=0A = chests of  crystals , but=0A = that  was  1970 .. seems  a =0A = lot  of the  traditional =0A= firms have  closed ,
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One  of the  =A35  dds = ; with =0A a driver  wou= ld  work , but =0A they&= nbsp; want to  keep  it =0A = standard
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DS -   T= hat's really  the =0A 'c= orrect'  situation  ,  that =0A = -33 db decode, -3 db  lower=0A = than  normal  was  a  good&nbs= p;=0A indication   that = the =0A system  is = ; working ,   over=0A = ranging  the  a/d  is the =0A = only  problem . I think =0A = dynamic  range is  60 d b=0A = after  processing  , is it  = ; 3=0A db per  bit  ?&nb= sp; 8 bits  , 24 =0A db = + 3   that's   27 dB ? =0A = 500:1 ?   , but   by =0A = removing    qty  2  m= ixers  =0A and  2&n= bsp; oscillators   , [ may =0A = be 3  oscillators  1 ,=0A = hf-up-conv  2 , pll  conv osc =0A = 3  ref osc )  that  is a  = lot =0A of  noise + jitt= er  removed =0A from the=   signal  path as=0A wel= l  as   imd  from  2 =0A = mixers , I found  a=0A = attenuator  helped  for  mw =0A = and  I have  a  mw-filter&n= bsp; ,=0A which  cleaned = ; up  sw  bands =0A = ......  nice to  have a =0A = panoramic  display , 2  mhz=0A = this time , the  ra17  was 1=0A = mhz  and   28  valves + 20 ish= =0A  > in the  radio&= nbsp;  
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Subje= ct: Re: LF:=0A Wanted 10XJ= or FT243 XTALS=0A Range 236.2= 5 236.75 KHz
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OK Graham
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=0A <= div>Anyway what's that=0A = master osc circuit. I=0A bui= ld from old RADCOM (pre=0A 197= 5 when they published=0A real = amateur radio) and=0A PW,QST e= tal. I use modern=0A xtals wit= h no known=0A issues. Well try= ing to get=0A third overtone f= or 10m not=0A to chirp is an i= ssue with=0A me at the moment.=  
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73 es GL Pete M0FMT=0A IO91= UX
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From:=0A = Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk=0A To:=0A = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg=0A
=0A = Sent:=0A = Thursday, 11 April=0A = 2013, 0:47
=0A = Subject:=0A = Re: LF: Wanted=0A = 10XJ or FT243=0A = XTALS Range 236.25=0A = 236.75 KHz
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Ok Pete
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Q where to =0A= have  them&n= bsp;=0A made = ?
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T= he  set  ,=0A = Marconi  Ocean=0A = span 1950's =0A = valve  tx =0A =  needs  the =0A = big  rock's =0A = as the =0A = oscillator =0A = pass's   quite=0A = a  lot  of&nbs= p;=0A power  = via=0A them ...hc6= u =0A are&nbs= p; no  good =0A = , drive level=0A = is very low -=0A = the ones=0A = fitted  are=0A = the wired-=0A = gold  flashed =0A = ones  , so =0A = cannot  etch =0A = into the  band=0A = ...
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the  gang =0A = want  to =0A = keep  it =0A = standard
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73 -G.
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Ps =0A = waiting  for = =0A qty-3  = =A36  =0A = dongles : )
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Sent:=0A = Wednesday,=0A = April 10, 2013=0A = 11:43 PM
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Subject:=0A = Re: LF: Wanted=0A = 10XJ or FT243=0A = XTALS Range=0A = 236.25 236.75=0A = KHz
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If=0A you want to= =0A spend a small= =0A fortune get=0A= them cut.=0A = However build=0A = a Mixer VXO=0A = from El cheapo=0A = standard xtals=0A = and or old PMR=0A = rocks. Then at=0A = your next=0A = rally buy a=0A = couple of=0A = Screw together=0A = 10xj or FT243=0A = rocks of any=0A = frequency and=0A = put the=0A = El-cheapo=0A = xtals inside.=0A = And Hey Presto=0A = you have Retro=0A = rocks.
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I=0A = have a small=0A = all valve 472=0A = tx that uses=0A = 6.00=0A = -6.472=3D0.472=0A = vxo-able a=0A = couple of kc/s=0A = 12ax7-6am6-6cl6=3D=0A = 4wattso/p.=0A = Local QRP rig.
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Hope=0A = this helps
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73 es GL=0A = Pete M0FMT=0A = IO91UX
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=0A = From:=0A = Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk=0A To:=0A = rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org=0A =0A Sent:=0A = Wednesday, 10=0A = April 2013,=0A = 20:30
=0A = Subject:=0A LF: Wanted=0A= 10XJ or FT243=0A = XTALS Range=0A = 236.25 236.75=0A = KHz
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Wanted =0A = 10XJ  or =0A = FT243  XTALS  =0A = Range  =0A = 236.25   =0A = 236.75  KHz  &nb= sp;=0A
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Q  I= s=0A there  a= ny =0A manufa= cture =0A of&= nbsp;  crystals =0A = in this =0A = range  ?
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Or =0A = Surplus   =0A = items  =0A = available 
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QTY 1 =0A = or  2  off = ;
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