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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Again Ken I have yet to get my "QRO" 473 rig working but I do still have the 4Watt QRP Tube / Valve retro rig working on the band just a matter of adjusting the PA tuning cap ... hee. I want to get my HB Mechanical bug built to go with. I have a Hi Mound side swipe ele key (non Iambic can't remember the number) mounted on a marble plinth. I am not over keen on the key my self. Use mainly the good old solid Kent Iambic, mark you it doesn't improve my sending....... Hee. Take a close look at the You Tube film you may find a lot of info there. There is another film but not as clear on the mechanism.There are other films showing skeleton mechanical keys easier to see and understand, however the principles are the same. There is even one that does both dits and dashes fully auto but I bet a nightmare to use since it can't be self completing so dits could interfere with dashes. Any way good luck hope the replies to date have helped. Have you tried "Fists" yahoo group? These things and very specialised these days not as easy to use as the ele keyers. FYI Ken there is a net on 474 Sunday mornings from about 09:30 out of Biggleswade goes on for quite a while call ins from Nottingham, Kent etc so please check it out. 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [77.238.189.90 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (m0fmt[at]yahoo.co.uk) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 29f1b43ee9e13e220716185d38bfb88c Subject: Re: LF: BK_100 Hi Mound Key Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1982344905-1911862084-1361874172=:76931" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mg04.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60cc512c948e45aa X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror --1982344905-1911862084-1361874172=:76931 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Again Ken=0A=A0=0AI have yet to get my "QRO" 473 rig working but I do st= ill have the 4Watt QRP Tube / Valve retro rig working on the band just=A0a = matter of adjusting the PA tuning cap=A0... hee. I want to get my HB Mechan= ical bug built to go with.=0A=A0=0AI have a Hi Mound side swipe ele key (no= n Iambic can't remember the number) mounted on a marble plinth. I am not ov= er keen on the key my self. Use mainly the good old solid Kent Iambic, mark= you it doesn't improve my sending....... Hee.=0A=A0=0ATake a close look at= the You Tube film you may find a lot of info there. There is another film = but not as clear on the mechanism.There are other films showing skeleton me= chanical keys easier to see and understand, however the principles are the = same. There is even one that does both dits and dashes fully auto but I bet= a nightmare to use since it can't be self completing so dits could interfe= re with dashes.=0A=A0=0AAny way good luck hope the replies to date have hel= ped. Have you tried "Fists" yahoo group? These things and very specialised = these days not as easy to use as the ele keyers.=A0=0A=A0=0AFYI Ken there i= s a net on 474 Sunday mornings from about 09:30 out of Biggleswade goes on = for quite a while call ins from Nottingham, Kent etc so please check it out= .=0A=A0=0A73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A=0A=0A>_____________________________= ___=0A> From: Ken =0A>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org =0A>Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2013, 9:50=0A>Subject: RE: LF: BK_1= 00 Hi Mound Key=0A> =0A>=0A> =0A>Hi Pete. =0A>Thanks for the info, I was r= eally looking=0Afor a single paddle key not a bug but this one came up at a= reasonable price.=0AShould soon be back on LF the new input band pass filt= er for the RX pre-amp was=0Acompleted on Sunday, only problem is that the f= ilter drifts with temperature,(I=0Anever checked this with the 500kHz BP fi= lter), I can correct for this as there=0Ais peaking variable capacitor in t= he pre-amp which I use to tune for max=0Asignal. All I need to do now is re= tune the TX driver and PA, and possibly add a=0Afew more turns on the vario= meter and we should be there. =0A>=A0 =0A>73 =0A>=A0 =0A>Ken =0A>=A0 =0A>M0= KHW =0A>=A0 =0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> =0A>From:owner- = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A[mailto: owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g ] On Behalf Of M0FMT=0A>Sent: 26 February 2013 09:19=0A>To: rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org=0A>Subject: Re: LF: BK_100 Hi Mound=0AKey =0A>=A0 =0A>Hi K= en =0A>=A0 =0A>Well=0Adone getting hold of the mechanical bug. I am not a= user or have had much=0Aexperience. However http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3Da7mRsdv8Y9c=A0You=0Atube presentation may help. =0A>What I=0Ahave been = doing over some considerable time is building my own. It's not yet=0Afinish= ed the vibrating part has been mocked up and it will send dits. There is=0A= in fact a lot of clever features you have to think about when designing the= se=0Athings like after a series if dits you then send a dash the "Reed"=0Ah= as to be damped to stop it continuing to send a dit. Not only that in trans= it=0Athe Reed needs a bit of protection so a feature to lock the Reed is de= sirable=0Aother wise it is continually trying to vibrate as it gets moved o= r knocked.=0AThis can be achieved by adjusting the damper hard over. Is it = the case with=0Ayour Key that it has been set for transit.... I don't know = this particular Key=0Abut in the You Tube video you can see it operating at= the end of the Reed /=0Aweight bar. =0A>Look=0Aforward to hearing it on 6= 30m. =0A>73 es=0AGL Pete M0FMT IO91UX =0A>From:Ken=0A=0A>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Sent: Monday, 25 February = 2013,=0A23:58=0A>Subject: LF: BK_100 Hi Mound Key =0A>=A0 =0A>All. =0A>I = have recently acquired a BK-100 Hi-Mound Bug type Key, although=0Aold, it l= ooks as if it has never been used, the contacts are black, and does=0Aappea= r to have been set up, and not had any cable connected to it, (I have some= =0Abasic set up info from the internet). On inspection it would look as if = the=0Adashes are to the left and dots to the right, is this correct?, there= is hardly=0Aany travel on the lever, and vibration on the pendulum. All of= the adjustors=0Aseem to be locked. I wpuld be grateful for any help and ad= vice on the operation=0Aand setup of this key. =0A>=A0 =0A>73. =0A>=A0 = =0A>Ken =0A>=A0 =0A>M0KHW =A0 =0A>=A0 =0A>=A0 =0A>=0A> --1982344905-1911862084-1361874172=:76931 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Again Ken
 
I have yet to get my "QRO" 473= rig working but I do still have the 4Watt QRP Tube / Valve retro rig worki= ng on the band just a matter of adjusting the PA tuning cap ... h= ee. I want to get my HB Mechanical bug built to go with.
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I have a Hi Mound side swipe ele key (no= n Iambic can't remember the num= ber) mounted on a marble plinth. I am not over keen on the key my self. Use= mainly the good old solid Kent Iambic, mark you it doesn't improve my send= ing....... Hee.
 
Take a= close look at the You Tube film you may find a lot of info there. There is= another film but not as clear on the mechanism.There are other films showing skeleton mechanical ke= ys easier to see and understand, however the principles are the same. There= is even one that does both dits and dashes fully auto but I bet a nightmar= e to use since it can't be self completing so dits could interfere with dashes.
 
Any way good luck hope the replies to date have= helped. Have you tried "Fists" yahoo group? These things and very specialised these days not as easy to = use as the ele keyers. 
 
FYI Ken ther= e is a net on 474 Sunday mornings from about 09:30 out of Biggleswade goes = on for quite a while call ins from Nottingham, Kent etc so please check it out.
 
73 es GL Pe= te M0FMT IO91UX
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Thanks for the info,= I was really looking=0Afor a single paddle key not a bug but this one came= up at a reasonable price.=0AShould soon be back on LF the new input band p= ass filter for the RX pre-amp was=0Acompleted on Sunday, only problem is th= at the filter drifts with temperature,(I=0Anever checked this with the 500k= Hz BP filter), I can correct for this as there=0Ais peaking variable capaci= tor in the pre-amp which I use to tune for max=0Asignal. All I need to do n= ow is retune the TX driver and PA, and possibly add a=0Afew more turns on t= he variometer and we should be there.
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Well=0Adone getting hold of the mechanical bug. I am not a user or h= ave had much=0Aexperience. However http://www.youtube.com/= watch?v=3Da7mRsdv8Y9c You=0Atube presentation may help.
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What= I=0Ahave been doing over some considerable time is building my own. It's n= ot yet=0Afinished the vibrating part has been mocked up and it will send di= ts. There is=0Ain fact a lot of clever features you have to think about whe= n designing these=0Athings like after a series if dits you then send a dash= the "Reed"=0Ahas to be damped to stop it continuing to send a dit. Not onl= y that in transit=0Athe Reed needs a bit of protection so a feature to lock= the Reed is desirable=0Aother wise it is continually trying to vibrate as = it gets moved or knocked.=0AThis can be achieved by adjusting the damper ha= rd over. Is it the case with=0Ayour Key that it has been set for transit...= . I don't know this particular Key=0Abut in the You Tube video you can see = it operating at the end of the Reed /=0Aweight bar.
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