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Content preview: Hi Roelof and group Nature abhors a vacuum. 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [77.238.189.199 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (m0fmt[at]yahoo.co.uk) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 5f132ffce194fb93f2267a462d849f2b Subject: Re: LF: 472kHz Bandplan or whatever Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-745693771-501755659-1360609167=:64946" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-de04.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cc5119451629c3 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ---745693771-501755659-1360609167=:64946 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roelof and group=0A=0ANature abhors a vacuum.=0A=0A73 es GL Pete M0FMT I= O91UX=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Roelof Bakker =0A>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Sent: Monday, 11= February 2013, 13:54=0A>Subject: Re: LF: 472kHz Bandplan or whatever=0A> = =0A>Hello Stefan,=0A>=0A>> -Is 150 Hz BW useful for CW beacons? Imagine the= re are 3 CW beacons in 150 Hz to the same time. How does it sound when you = have a 500 Hz CW filter?=0A>=0A>Maybe this is mend to be an entry class lev= el for NDB hunters, where it is not unusual to find more than 5 stations wi= thin 20 Hz. Or it is to encourage the use of really narrow CW filters!=0A>= =0A>This whole thread is an excellent demonstration of two classes of human= nature: those who can't live without regulation of all details of live (ev= en if they don't actually participate) and those who can!=0A>=0A>73,=0A>Roe= lof, pa0rdt=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> ---745693771-501755659-1360609167=:64946 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi = Roelof and group
 
Nature = abhors a vacuum.
 
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
From:<= /b> Roelof Bakker <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>
To:<= /span> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 13:54
Subject: Re: LF: 472kHz Bandplan or what= ever

Hello Stefan,

> -Is 150 Hz BW useful = for CW beacons? Imagine there are 3 CW beacons in 150 Hz to the same time. = How does it sound when you have a 500 Hz CW filter?

Maybe this is me= nd to be an entry class level for NDB hunters, where it is not unusual to f= ind more than 5 stations within 20 Hz. Or it is to encourage the use of rea= lly narrow CW filters!

This whole thread is an excellent demonstrati= on of two classes of human nature: those who can't live without regulation = of all details of live (even if they don't actually participate) and those = who can!

73,
Roelof, pa0rdt



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