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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Chris I will rub along with a majority view. My statement about the number of NoVs issued was a lie, I am ashamed to say. However Geri got the reference. 42 is the incomprehensible answer to the ultimate question of Life, The Universe and Everything which is less incomprehensible than current NoV for 630m (472/9kc/s). Another answer to the Binary string 0101010 or the answer to twice the "key of the door" but we still need a question. Since Geri was on his way the Restaurant at the edge of the Universe after no doubt downing 6 pints of best bitter or in Geri's case 3.40957Litres of best Holstein Lager to avoid the impending approach of the Vogon destructor fleet to build a hyperspace bypass through Earth starting in the mountains of France; I thought that he may enjoy pondering this conundrum. However its all to no avail since the fleet has obviously been withdrawn. Not like the impending destructor fleet heading to the M25 in Kent. Prostetnic Jeltz we know where you live and you don't scare us!!! 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1690458260-1392581269-1356117545=:22718" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600a50d4b72c4c95 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ---1690458260-1392581269-1356117545=:22718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris=0A=A0=0AI will rub along with a majority view.=0A=A0=0AMy statement= =A0about the=A0number=A0of=A0NoVs issued was a lie, I am ashamed to say.=0A= =A0=0AHowever=A0Geri got the reference.=0A42 is the incomprehensible=A0answ= er to=A0the ultimate question of Life, The Universe and Everything which is= less incomprehensible than current NoV for 630m (472/9kc/s). Another answe= r=A0to the Binary string 0101010 or the answer to twice=A0the "key of the d= oor" but we still need a question.=0A=A0=0ASince=A0Geri was on his way the = Restaurant at the edge of the Universe after no doubt=A0downing 6 pints of = best bitter or in Geri's case 3.40957Litres of best Holstein=A0Lager=A0to a= void the impending approach of the Vogon destructor fleet to build a hypers= pace bypass=A0through Earth starting in the mountains of France;=A0I though= t that he may enjoy pondering this conundrum. However its all to no avail s= ince the fleet has obviously been withdrawn. Not like the impending=A0destr= uctor fleet heading=A0to the M25 in Kent.=0AProstetnic Jeltz we know where = you live and you don't scare us!!!=A0=0A=0A73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A=0A= =0A>________________________________=0A> From: Chris =0A>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Sent: Friday, 21 December 201= 2, 17:41=0A>Subject: Re: LF: Re: 477 NOV What Modes ?=0A> =0A>=0A> =0A= >Pete, I think the main requirement band plan wise =0Ais knowing which sect= ion to monitor for QRSS and other narrow modes, as one is =0Arestricted to = quite a narrow bandwidth, very narrow with the slower QRSS, of =0Acourse. = =0A>Incidentally, how did you know 42 NoVs had been =0Aissued for the new b= and? I cannot find this info on the RSGB website, but not =0Asure where to = look.... =0A>Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent. =0A>----- Original Message ---= -- =0A>>From: M0FMT =0A>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>Sent: Fri= day, December 21, 2012 5:21 PM =0A>>Subject: Re: LF: Re: 477 NOV What Mode= s ? =0A>>=0A>> =0A>>Hi Chris =0A>>=A0 =0A>>Just seen the dreaded words "B= and Plan" I think there are some who would not like this, me included. The= Band plan is the RSGB Police-mans weapon of choice. Four meters has gone = from a friendly rub along band to a band with abusive RSGB Band Plan indiv= iduals that are never heard in QSO's but come out of the wood-work and jam= the channel in the name of the=A0Band Plans. =0A>>=A0 =0A>>So nailing my = colours firmly to the mast I say no band plan (well not written in stone a= nyway). I have even had unsolicited e-mails from Amateurs purporting to be= RSGB officials who ought to know better. If OFCOM decree some form of pla= n like avoiding NDBs and the like well OK but they are the only authority = that I am prepared to obey apart from a common sense avoidance of deliberat= e interference something lost on the channel jammers on VHF!=0A>> =0A>>73= es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A>>=0A>>=A0=0A>>>________________________________= =0A>>>From: Stefan Endemann =0A>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org =0A>>>Sent: Friday, 21 December 2012, 13:02=0A>>>Subject: Re: LF:= Re: 477 NOV What Modes ?=0A>>>=0A>>>Hi Pete and Geri,=0A>>>=0A>>>Codec2 = =0A might be a viable medium term solution for real-time compression=0A>= >>of =0A speech for narrow band communication (http://codec2.org/).=0A>>= >=0A>>>There is also an interesting =0A presentation about Codec2 by Dav= id Rowe on=0A>>>youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKsywWf8dQgU=0A>>>= =0A>>>73 =0A Stefan, DJ2SEA=0A>>>=0A>>>-------- Original Message=A0 ----= ----=0A>>>Subject: =0A Re: LF: Re: 477=A0 NOV=A0 What Modes=A0 ?=0A>>>Fr= om: M0FMT =0A>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>>Date: =0A Fri Dec 21 2012 13:37:25 GMT+0100= =0A>>>=0A>>>> Hi again Geri=0A>>>>=A0 =0A>>>> I remember the SM stns using = normal SSB on a beacon QRG 505 +/-. =0A a=0A>>>> couple of years ago but= not compressed.=0A>>>>=A0 =0A>>>> I =0A was thinking that there must be= a method or algorithm that has a =0A look=0A>>>> up table of "diphones"= and is able to utilise the repetitive =0A sounds,=0A>>>> spaces and dip= hones of the language in use (hard luck German =0A has over=0A>>>> 2500 = Spanish has 800). Thus a real time narrow band =0A communication=0A>>>> = channel carrying only pointing data would result. The =0A outcome will= =0A>>>> probably be a cross between Donald Duck and Stephen =0A Hawking = in a channel=0A>>>> of a few Hz? Any mileage (sorry Kilometreage) =0A in= the idea?=0A>>>> Just thought to make the sound like the sender there =0A = could be a real=0A>>>> time slowed down session of key words to build th= e =0A diphone library prior=0A>>>> to the contact so the following QSO w= ould =0A sound nearly normal. This=0A>>>> library would build over time = so the =0A system training would only need one=0A>>>> session for a part= icular stn =0A then on future QSOs a call sign entry would=0A>>>> only b= e needed...... =0A better stop now I am scaring myself. Maybe get it=0A>= >>> all on one =0A PIC...... not?=0A>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp= eech_synthesis=0A>>>>=A0 =0A>>>> 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A>>>> =0A>>>>= =A0 =A0 *From:* =0A Holger 'Geri' DK8KW DI2BO W1KW =0A>>>= >=A0 =A0 =0A *To:* "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" =0A>>>>=A0 =0A =A0 *Cc:* "" =0A>>>>=A0 =0A =A0 *Sent:* Friday, 21 December= 2012, 11:16=0A>>>>=A0 =A0 =0A *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: 477 NOV What Modes= ?=0A>>>> =0A>>>>=A0 =A0 =0A Markus and I once had a successful "Slow SS= B" QSO on 137 kHz =0A years=0A>>>>=A0 =A0 ago in our German 800 Hz bandw= idth limitation. We =0A slowed down normal=0A>>>>=A0 =A0 voice four time= s, transmitted it =0A over SSB and expanded it again by=0A>>>>=A0 =A0 re= versing the process =0A ... using the full 7 kHz would make a fine AM=0A= >>>>=A0 =A0 signal, =0A indeed ... perhaps even a low deviation FM signa= l would do?=0A>>>> =0A>>>>=A0 =A0 Be creative, by 73=0A>>>> =0A>>>>=A0 =A0 = Geri, =0A DK8KW=0A>>>> =0A>>>>=A0 =A0 m=0A>>>>=A0 =A0 On 21.12.2012, at = =0A 10:34, "Chris" >>>=A0 =0A =A0 > wrote:=0A>>>> =0A>>>>>=A0 =A0 All modes, as= per the licence and =0A 136/7 band.=0A>>>>>=A0 =A0 Roger, yes, a couple= of us are thinking =0A about some QRP AM across=0A>>>>>=A0 =A0 town (su= bject to non QRM =0A to other locals), and why not?=0A>>>>>=A0 =A0 Some = sort of agreed =0A band plan would be helpful ASAP as well.=0A>>>>>=A0 = =A0 My two =0A NoVs were dated 20th. December, but it does say 'Date of= =0A>>>>>=A0 =0A =A0 Issue', which isn't the same as 'Date of Commencemen= t', =0A 'With=0A>>>>>=A0 =A0 Effect From' or whatever. It was clear from= =0A the Ofcom site where=0A>>>>>=A0 =A0 the link was that the NoV =0A = comes into effect on 1st. January.=0A>>>>>=A0 =A0 Vy 73, Chris, =0A G4= AYT, Whitstable, Kent.=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =0A ----- Original= Message -----=0A>>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *From:* =0A Graham =0A>>>>>=A0 =0A =A0 =A0 =A0 *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org=0A>>>>>=A0 =0A =A0 =A0 =A0 = =0A>>>>>=A0 =0A =A0 =A0 =A0 *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2012 5:04 =0A= PM=0A>>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *Subject:* LF: 477 NOV What Modes =0A ?=0A= >>>>>=0A>>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Starting=A0 =0A 1/1/13=A0 .. but=A0 =A0 Wha= t Modes=A0 non=A0 listed , =0A only=A0 =0A>>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 the=A0 po= wer =0A ??=0A>>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =0A>>>>>=A0 =A0 =0A =A0 =A0 G..= =0A>>>>>=0A>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =0A>>>> =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>= =0A>=0A> ---1690458260-1392581269-1356117545=:22718 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Chris
 
I will rub along with a majority view= .
 
My statement ab= out the number of NoV= s issued was a lie, I am ashamed to say.
 
However Geri got the reference.
=
42 is the incomprehensible answer to the ultimate question of Life, The Universe and = Everything which is less incomprehensible than current NoV for 630m (472/9kc/s). Another answer to = the Binary string 0101010 or the answer to twice the "key of the door" but we still need a question.
 
Since = Geri was on his way the Restaurant at the edge of the Universe after no dou= bt downing 6 pints of best bitter or in Geri's case 3.40957Litres of b= est Holstein Lager to= avoid the impending approach o= f the Vogon destructor fleet to build a hyperspace bypass&= nbsp;through Earth starting in the mountains of France; I thought that= he may enjoy pondering this conundrum. However its all to no avail since the fleet has obviously been wi= thdrawn. Not like the impending destructor fleet heading to the M25 in Kent.
= Prostetnic Jeltz we k= now where you live and you don't scare us!!! 
 
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91<= span id=3D"misspell-16" class=3D"mark">UX
From: Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>
Sent: Friday, 21 December 2012, 17:41
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 477 NOV Wh= at Modes ?

=0A=0A =0A =0A= =0A=0A
=0A
Pete, I think the main r= equirement band plan wise =0Ais knowing which section to monitor for QRSS and other narrow modes, as on= e is =0Arestricted to quite a narrow bandwidth, very narrow with the slower= QRSS, of =0Acourse.<= /div>=0A
Incidentally, how did you know= 42 NoVs had been =0Aissued = for the new band? I cannot find this info on the RSGB website, but not =0As= ure where to look....
=0A
C= hris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent.
=0A=0A
----- Original Message ---= --
=0A
From: =0A = M0FMT =0A =0A
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5= :21 =0A PM
=0A
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 477 NOV What M= odes =0A ?
=0A

=0A
=0A
Hi Chris
=0A
<= span> 
=0A
Just seen the dreaded words "Band P= lan" I think there are some who =0A would not like this, me included. The = Band plan is the RSGB Police-man= s weapon of choice. Four meters =0A has gone from a friendly= rub along band to a band with abusive RSGB Band Plan =0A individuals that= are never heard in QSO's but come =0A out of the wood-wor= k and jam the channel in the name of the Band Plans. =0A =0A
 
=0A
So nailing my colours f= irmly to the mast I say no band plan (well =0A not written in stone anyway= ). I have even had unsolicited e-mails from Amateurs purporting =0A to be RSGB officials who= ought to know better. If OFCOM decree some form of =0A plan like avoiding NDBs and the like well OK but they are the only authori= ty =0A that I am prepared to obey apart from a common sense avoidance of d= eliberate =0A interference some= thing lost on the =0A channel jammers on VHF!
=0A
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
=0A
=0A
=0A
=0A
&nb= sp; =0A
From: Stefan Endemann =0A <dj2sea@darc.de= >
To: =0A rsgb_lf= _group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Friday, 21 December 2012, =0A 13:02
Subject: Re: LF: Re: =0A 477 NOV What Modes ?
<= /font>

Hi Pete and Geri,

Codec2 =0A might be a viable me= dium term solution for real-time compression
of =0A speech for narrow= band communication (http://codec2.org/).

There is also an interesting = =0A presentation about Codec2 by David Rowe on
youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKsywWf8dQgU

73 =0A Stefa= n, DJ2SEA

-------- Original Message  --------
Subject: =0A = Re: LF: Re: 477  NOV  What Modes  ?
From: M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A <rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: =0A Fri Dec 21 2012 13:37:25 GM= T+0100

> Hi again Geri
>  =0A
> I remember t= he SM stns using normal SSB on a beacon QRG 505 +/-. =0A a
> coupl= e of years ago but not compressed.
> 
> I =0A was thin= king that there must be a method or algorithm that has a =0A look
>= ; up table of "diphones" and is able to utilise the repetitive =0A sound= s,
> spaces and diphones of the language in use (hard luck German =0A= has over
> 2500 Spanish has 800). Thus a real time narrow band = =0A communication
> channel carrying only pointing data would resu= lt. The =0A outcome will
> probably be a cross between Donald Duck= and Stephen =0A Hawking in a channel
> of a few Hz? Any mileage (= sorry Kilometreage) =0A in the idea?
> Just thought to make the so= und like the sender there =0A could be a real
> time slowed down s= ession of key words to build the =0A diphone library prior
> to th= e contact so the following QSO would =0A sound nearly normal. This
&g= t; library would build over time so the =0A system training would only n= eed one
> session for a particular stn =0A then on future QSOs a c= all sign entry would
> only be needed...... =0A better stop now I = am scaring myself. Maybe get it
> all on one =0A PIC...... not?> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_synthesis>  =0A
> 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
>
>&nb= sp;   *From:* =0A Holger 'Geri' DK8KW DI2BO W1KW <geri@dk8kw.de>
>    =0A *To:* "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org" =0A <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>  =0A   *Cc:* "&l= t;rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org>" =0A <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>  =0A &n= bsp; *Sent:* Friday, 21 December 2012, 11:16
>    =0A *S= ubject:* Re: LF: Re: 477 NOV What Modes ?
>
>    =0A= Markus and I once had a successful "Slow SSB" QSO on 137 kHz =0A yea= rs
>    ago in our German 800 Hz bandwidth limitation. We = =0A slowed down normal
>    voice four times, transmitte= d it =0A over SSB and expanded it again by
>    reversin= g the process =0A ... using the full 7 kHz would make a fine AM
>&= nbsp;   signal, =0A indeed ... perhaps even a low deviation FM sign= al would do?
> =0A
>    Be creative, by 73
>= ;
>    Geri, =0A DK8KW
>
>    m<= br>>    On 21.12.2012, at =0A 10:34, "Chris" <c.ashby435@btinternet.com
&g= t;  =0A   <mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com>> =0A wrote:
>
&g= t;>    All modes, as per the licence and =0A 136/7 band.>>    Roger, yes, a couple of us are thinking =0A about= some QRP AM across
>>    town (subject to non QRM =0A = to other locals), and why not?
>>    Some sort of agre= ed =0A band plan would be helpful ASAP as well.
>>   = My two =0A NoVs were dated 20th. December, but it does say 'Date of
= >>  =0A   Issue', which isn't the same as 'Date of Comme= ncement', =0A 'With
>>    Effect From' or whatever. I= t was clear from =0A the Ofcom site where
>>    the l= ink was that the NoV =0A comes into effect on 1st. January.
>>&= nbsp;   Vy 73, Chris, =0A G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent.
>>
&= gt;>        =0A ----- Original Message -----
&= gt;>        *From:* =0A Graham <mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
&= gt;>  =0A       *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>&n= bsp; =0A       <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>&n= bsp; =0A       *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2012 5:04 = =0A PM
>>        *Subject:* LF: 477 NOV Wha= t Modes =0A ?
>>
>>        Startin= g  =0A 1/1/13  .. but    What Modes  non  = listed , =0A only 
>>        the = ; power =0A ??
>>         
>>= ;    =0A     G..
>>
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&g= t;      =0A
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