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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stephan That is not entirely what had in mind but impressive ..... I want one! 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX > > From: Stefan Endemann >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Sent: Friday, 21 December 2012, 13:02 >Subject: Re: LF: Re: 477 NOV What Modes ? > >Hi Pete and Geri, > >Codec2 might be a viable medium term solution for real-time compression >of speech for narrow band communication (http://codec2.org/). > >There is also an interesting presentation about Codec2 by David Rowe on >youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsywWf8dQgU > >73 Stefan, DJ2SEA > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: Re: LF: Re: 477 NOV What Modes ? >From: M0FMT >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Date: Fri Dec 21 2012 13:37:25 GMT+0100 > >> Hi again Geri >> >> I remember the SM stns using normal SSB on a beacon QRG 505 +/-. a >> couple of years ago but not compressed. >> >> I was thinking that there must be a method or algorithm that has a look >> up table of "diphones" and is able to utilise the repetitive sounds, >> spaces and diphones of the language in use (hard luck German has over >> 2500 Spanish has 800). Thus a real time narrow band communication >> channel carrying only pointing data would result. The outcome will >> probably be a cross between Donald Duck and Stephen Hawking in a channel >> of a few Hz? Any mileage (sorry Kilometreage) in the idea? >> Just thought to make the sound like the sender there could be a real >> time slowed down session of key words to build the diphone library prior >> to the contact so the following QSO would sound nearly normal. This >> library would build over time so the system training would only need one >> session for a particular stn then on future QSOs a call sign entry would >> only be needed...... better stop now I am scaring myself. Maybe get it >> all on one PIC...... not? >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_synthesis >> >> 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX >> >> *From:* Holger 'Geri' DK8KW DI2BO W1KW >> *To:* "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" >> [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [77.238.189.92 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (m0fmt[at]yahoo.co.uk) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 567a11ac6cfe1e88f3054745c06178fe Subject: Re: LF: Re: 477 NOV What Modes ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="856002529-1261890738-1356107788=:4835" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mj06.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d7b9a50d494a53d66 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --856002529-1261890738-1356107788=:4835 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stephan=0A=A0=0AThat is not entirely what had in mind but impressive ...= .. I want one!=0A=A0=0A73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A=0A=0A>________________= ________________=0A> From: Stefan Endemann =0A>To: rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org =0A>Sent: Friday, 21 December 2012, 13:02=0A>Subject: = Re: LF: Re: 477 NOV What Modes ?=0A> =0A>Hi Pete and Geri,=0A>=0A>Code= c2 might be a viable medium term solution for real-time compression=0A>of s= peech for narrow band communication (http://codec2.org/).=0A>=0A>There is a= lso an interesting presentation about Codec2 by David Rowe on=0A>youtube: h= ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKsywWf8dQgU=0A>=0A>73 Stefan, DJ2SEA=0A>=0A= >-------- Original Message=A0 --------=0A>Subject: Re: LF: Re: 477=A0 NOV= =A0 What Modes=A0 ?=0A>From: M0FMT =0A>To: rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org =0A>Date: Fri Dec 21 2012 13= :37:25 GMT+0100=0A>=0A>> Hi again Geri=0A>>=A0 =0A>> I remember the SM stns= using normal SSB on a beacon QRG 505 +/-. a=0A>> couple of years ago but n= ot compressed.=0A>>=A0 =0A>> I was thinking that there must be a method or = algorithm that has a look=0A>> up table of "diphones" and is able to utilis= e the repetitive sounds,=0A>> spaces and diphones of the language in use (h= ard luck German has over=0A>> 2500 Spanish has 800). Thus a real time narro= w band communication=0A>> channel carrying only pointing data would result.= The outcome will=0A>> probably be a cross between Donald Duck and Stephen = Hawking in a channel=0A>> of a few Hz? Any mileage (sorry Kilometreage) in = the idea?=0A>> Just thought to make the sound like the sender there could b= e a real=0A>> time slowed down session of key words to build the diphone li= brary prior=0A>> to the contact so the following QSO would sound nearly nor= mal. This=0A>> library would build over time so the system training would o= nly need one=0A>> session for a particular stn then on future QSOs a call s= ign entry would=0A>> only be needed...... better stop now I am scaring myse= lf. Maybe get it=0A>> all on one PIC...... not?=0A>> http://en.wikipedia.or= g/wiki/Speech_synthesis=0A>>=A0 =0A>> 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A>> =0A>>= =A0 =A0 *From:* Holger 'Geri' DK8KW DI2BO W1KW =0A>>=A0 =A0= *To:* "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" =0A>>= =A0 =A0 *Cc:* "" =0A>>=A0 =A0 *Sent:* Friday, 21 December 2012, 11:16=0A>>=A0 =A0 *Subj= ect:* Re: LF: Re: 477 NOV What Modes ?=0A>> =0A>>=A0 =A0 Markus and I once= had a successful "Slow SSB" QSO on 137 kHz years=0A>>=A0 =A0 ago in our G= erman 800 Hz bandwidth limitation. We slowed down normal=0A>>=A0 =A0 voice= four times, transmitted it over SSB and expanded it again by=0A>>=A0 =A0 = reversing the process ... using the full 7 kHz would make a fine AM=0A>>=A0= =A0 signal, indeed ... perhaps even a low deviation FM signal would do?= =0A>> =0A>>=A0 =A0 Be creative, by 73=0A>> =0A>>=A0 =A0 Geri, DK8KW=0A>> = =0A>>=A0 =A0 m=0A>>=A0 =A0 On 21.12.2012, at 10:34, "Chris" >=A0 =A0 > wrote:=0A>> = =0A>>>=A0 =A0 All modes, as per the licence and 136/7 band.=0A>>>=A0 =A0 = Roger, yes, a couple of us are thinking about some QRP AM across=0A>>>=A0 = =A0 town (subject to non QRM to other locals), and why not?=0A>>>=A0 =A0 = Some sort of agreed band plan would be helpful ASAP as well.=0A>>>=A0 =A0 = My two NoVs were dated 20th. December, but it does say 'Date of=0A>>>=A0 = =A0 Issue', which isn't the same as 'Date of Commencement', 'With=0A>>>=A0= =A0 Effect From' or whatever. It was clear from the Ofcom site where=0A>>= >=A0 =A0 the link was that the NoV comes into effect on 1st. January.=0A>>= >=A0 =A0 Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent.=0A>>>=0A>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= ----- Original Message -----=0A>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *From:* Graham =0A>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org=0A>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =0A>>>= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2012 5:04 PM=0A>>>=A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 *Subject:* LF: 477 NOV What Modes ?=0A>>>=0A>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 St= arting=A0 1/1/13=A0 .. but=A0 =A0 What Modes=A0 non=A0 listed , only=A0 = =0A>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 the=A0 power ??=0A>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =0A>>>=A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 G..=0A>>>=0A>> =0A>> =0A>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =0A>> =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> = --856002529-1261890738-1356107788=:4835 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Stephan
 
That is not entirely what had in= mind but impressive ..... I want one!
 
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
=
Fro= m: Stefan Endemann <dj2sea@darc.de>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Friday, 21 December 2012, 13:02
= Subject: Re: LF: Re: 477 NOV= What Modes ?

Hi Pete and Geri,

Codec2 mig= ht be a viable medium term solution for real-time compression
of speech = for narrow band communication (http://codec2.org/).

There is also an interesting presentat= ion about Codec2 by David Rowe on
youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?= v=3DKsywWf8dQgU

73 Stefan, DJ2SEA

-------- Original Messa= ge  --------
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 477  NOV  What Modes&n= bsp; ?
From: M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: Fri Dec 21 2012 13:37:25 GMT+= 0100

> Hi again Geri
> 
> I remember the SM stn= s using normal SSB on a beacon QRG 505 +/-. a
> couple of years ago b= ut not compressed.
> 
> I was thinking that there must be= a method or algorithm that has a look
> up table of "diphones" and i= s able to utilise the repetitive sounds,
> spaces and diphones of the= language in use (hard luck German has over
> 2500 Spanish has 800). = Thus a real time narrow band communication
> channel carrying only po= inting data would result. The outcome will
> probably be a cross betw= een Donald Duck and Stephen Hawking in a channel
> of a few Hz? Any mile= age (sorry Kilometreage) in the idea?
> Just thought to make the soun= d like the sender there could be a real
> time slowed down session of= key words to build the diphone library prior
> to the contact so the= following QSO would sound nearly normal. This
> library would build = over time so the system training would only need one
> session for a = particular stn then on future QSOs a call sign entry would
> only be = needed...... better stop now I am scaring myself. Maybe get it
> all = on one PIC...... not?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_synthesi= s
> 
> 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
>
>&nb= sp;   *From:* Holger 'Geri' DK8KW DI2BO W1KW <geri@dk8kw.de>
>   = ; *To:* "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>    *= Cc:* "<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>   = ; *Sent:* Friday, 21 December 2012, 11:16
>    *Subject:*= Re: LF: Re: 477 NOV What Modes ?
>
>    Markus and= I once had a successful "Slow SSB" QSO on 137 kHz years
>  &nbs= p; ago in our German 800 Hz bandwidth limitation. We slowed down normal>    voice four times, transmitted it over SSB and expanded it again by=
>    reversing the process ... using the full 7 kHz would= make a fine AM
>    signal, indeed ... perhaps even a low= deviation FM signal would do?
>
>    Be creative, = by 73
>
>    Geri, DK8KW
>
>  &nb= sp; m
>    On 21.12.2012, at 10:34, "Chris" <c.ashby435@btinternet.com
>    <mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com>> wrote:
>
>>= ;    All modes, as per the licence and 136/7 band.
>>&n= bsp;   Roger, yes, a couple of us are thinking about some QRP AM acro= ss
>>    town (subject to non QRM to other locals), and why not?
>>    Some sort of agreed band plan would be = helpful ASAP as well.
>>    My two NoVs were dated 20th= . December, but it does say 'Date of
>>    Issue', whic= h isn't the same as 'Date of Commencement', 'With
>>    = Effect From' or whatever. It was clear from the Ofcom site where
>&g= t;    the link was that the NoV comes into effect on 1st. Januar= y.
>>    Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent.
>= >
>>        ----- Original Message ----->>        *From:* Graham <mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>>        *T= o:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>        <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org>
>>        *Sent:* Thursday, = December 20, 2012 5:04 PM
>>        *Subject:= * LF: 477 NOV What Modes ?
>>
>>      &nbs= p; Starting  1/1/13  .. but    What Modes  non&= nbsp; listed , only 
>>        the = ; power ??
>>         
>> =       G..
>>
>
>
>  &nbs= p;  
>



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