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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: TNX Geri! Yes, I'm vy interesting abt the official document. German is not problem. Send it to my personal email rw3adb@ya.ru , pse. Roman RW3ADB. > 20 Сентябрь 2012 г. 13:54:38 пользователь Holger 'Geri' DK8KW DI2BO W1KW (geri@dk8kw.de) написал: > > Roman, > > German regulations: 472 to 479 kHz as secondary allocation for all A-class radio operators (= full CEPT class), all modes up to 800 Hz bandwidth, max. 1 Watt ERP, no restrictions other than the recommendation to use only the minimum power necessary for the communication in order not to cause any interference to the primary user of the band (mainly NDBs). > > If you like I can send you the official document (in German language). > > Vy 73 > > Geri, currently OE/DK8KW > > On 20.09.2012, at 07:59, "Roman RW3ADB" wrote: > > > > > Hi Mal, LF, > > Nice to copy u, OM. > > The CW is a primary mode on the any band. > > The exclusive pass band for CW only as usual on the low freq's of pass-band. > > The life is not stdb on the one place and more people is not use a CW only. > > The new mode like OPERA     for example so interesting and more easy to use then QRSS for DX. > > > > TO ALL: > > It is likely that there is a document which governs currently activity amateur stations in these bands in England and Germany or in the other countries.. > > Can anybody tell me where they are available? > > Roman RW3ADB. > >> > 19 Сентябрь 2012 г. 23:43:17 пользовате­­ль mal hamilton (g3kevmal@talktalk.net) написал: > >> > > Forget about specific modes at present and frequency slot allocation.. Ask > >> > for an allocation of 472 - 479 Khz to be compatible with EU or more spectrum > >> > if you can get it. > >> > Because of QRM from other services depending where you happen to reside in > >> > the World it is difficult to specify frequency slots for specific modes > >> > that suits all. > >> > I am surprised the band is not CW only since that was the primary mode used > >> > on the band in the past by the Marine authorities. > >> > de mal/g3kev > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Sabine DL1DBC" > >> > To: [...] Content analysis details: (-0.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [81.19.92.40 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.5 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 79aab7440207271f32757adc503f8c76 Subject: RE: Re: LF: The band-plans for new bands in Russia Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-de02.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : rambler.ru DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40ca505be05b6bad X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none TNX Geri! Yes, I'm vy interesting abt the official document. German is not problem. Send it to my personal email rw3adb@ya.ru , pse. Roman RW3ADB. > 20 =D0=A1=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8C 2012 =D0=B3. 13:54:38= =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C H= olger 'Geri' DK8KW DI2BO W1KW (geri@dk8kw.de) =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1= =81=D0=B0=D0=BB: >=20 > Roman, >=20 > German regulations: 472 to 479 kHz as secondary allocation for all A-clas= s radio operators (=3D full CEPT class), all modes up to 800 Hz bandwidth, = max. 1 Watt ERP, no restrictions other than the recommendation to use only = the minimum power necessary for the communication in order not to cause any= interference to the primary user of the band (mainly NDBs). >=20 > If you like I can send you the official document (in German language). >=20 > Vy 73 >=20 > Geri, currently OE/DK8KW >=20 > On 20.09.2012, at 07:59, "Roman RW3ADB" wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > Hi Mal, LF, > > Nice to copy u, OM. > > The CW is a primary mode on the any band. > > The exclusive pass band for CW only as usual on the low freq's of pass-= band. > > The life is not stdb on the one place and more people is not use a CW o= nly. > > The new mode like OPERA =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0for example so inter= esting and more easy to use then QRSS for DX. > >=20 > > TO ALL: > > It is likely that there is a document which governs currently activity = amateur stations in these bands in England and Germany or in the other coun= tries.. > > Can anybody tell me where they are available? > > Roman RW3ADB. > >> > 19 =D0=A1=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8C 2012 =D0=B3. 23:= 43:17 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=C2=AD=C2= =AD=D0=BB=D1=8C mal hamilton (g3kevmal@talktalk.net) =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0= =B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > >> > > Forget about specific modes at present and frequency slot allocati= on.. Ask > >> > for an allocation of 472 - 479 Khz to be compatible with EU or more = spectrum > >> > if you can get it. > >> > Because of QRM from other services depending where you happen to res= ide in > >> > the World it is difficult to specify frequency slots for specific mo= des > >> > that suits all. > >> > I am surprised the band is not CW only since that was the primary mo= de used > >> > on the band in the past by the Marine authorities. > >> > de mal/g3kev > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Sabine DL1DBC" > >> > To: > >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:18 PM > >> > Subject: Re: LF: The band-plans for new bands in Russia > >> > > > Hi Roman, > >> > > > >> > > take into account a segment for the WSPR mode with 477 kHz dial > >> > > frequency and 478,5 kHz TX frequency. I am really looking forward = to > >> > > receive your WSPR signals! > >> > > > >> > > 73 > >> > > Sabine, DL1DBC > >> > > > >> > > Am Mittwoch, den 19.09.2012, 22:29 +0400 schrieb Roman RW3ADB: > >> > > > Liebe kameraden, genossen und funkamateure! > >> > > > > >> > > > We are faced in front of daunting task! With our modest forces, = we > >> > should make a band plan for the range of 9 kHz and 472 kHz for the u= se of > >> > these bands in the Russian Federation. > >> > > > Without any doubt, it is very desirable for us to make the band-= pass the > >> > same one used in Europe. > >> > > > As the final band plan for these bands has not developed, we are= ready > >> > to listen to any reasonable offers, so take them into account when a= pplying > >> > our wishes to the office of the Telecommunications. > >> > > > > >> > > > >From the 136.su community to the world wide, > >> > > > Roman, RW3ADB. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >=20 >=20=