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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Apologies for repeating myself, personally I don't see how people who would prefer to stay with one list could decide also for people who would prefer to stay with the other (or both). Regards D. Da: mal hamilton A: Lunedì 4 Giugno 2012 13:51 Oggetto: Re: LF: Poll announcement [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.82.109.198 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (danieletincani[at]yahoo.com) -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 FSL_FREEMAIL_2 FSL_FREEMAIL_2 0.0 FSL_FREEMAIL_1 FSL_FREEMAIL_1 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 34d483c57c7a6bf26c25db3c8765d5fc Subject: Re: LF: Poll announcement Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-67346210-1719420055-1338811035=:68106" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, GET_STARTED_NOW,HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:448576320:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d010.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408d4fcca2cf35f6 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ---67346210-1719420055-1338811035=:68106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Apologies=A0for repeating myself, personally=A0I don't see how people who= =A0would prefer to stay with one list could decide also for people who woul= d prefer to stay with the other (or both).=0ARegards=0AD.=0A =0A=0A________= ________________________=0A Da: mal hamilton =0AA: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0AInviato: Luned=EC 4 Giugno 2012 13:51=0AOgge= tto: Re: LF: Poll announcement=0A =0AWhat I would like to see is a VOTE ta= king place openly on both reflectors=0Afor all to SEE ie TRANSPARENT and DE= MOCRATIC and not a closed shop approach=0Aon one reflector.=0ALet the 155 s= ubscribers please VOTE openly=0AG3KEV=0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0AF= rom: "Roger Lapthorn" =0ATo: =0ASent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:43 PM=0ASubject: Re: LF: Poll ann= ouncement=0A=0A=0AThe poll is open until June 11th Stefan!=0A=0A73s=0ARoger= =0A=0A-- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver --=0A=0AOn 3 Jun 2012, at 22:34, Stefan= =0ASch=E4fer wrote:=0A=0A> It wasn't= possible to take part in the poll even after subscribing. So=0Athis cannot= be serious! Apart from the democratic conflict which is see too.=0A> I thi= nk the different opinions are clear after that day.=0A> Now i want to focus= on amateur radio again, whatever the frequency might=0Abe.=0A>=0A> Stefan/= DK7FC=0A>=0A> Am 03.06.2012 16:29, schrieb Graham:=0A>> Slight democratic= =A0 conflict=A0 ..=A0 you=A0 have to=A0 be a=A0 member of the=A0 yahoo=0Agr= oup=A0 to=A0 vote , therefore you=A0 have a=A0 declared interests in yahoo= =A0 , so=0Athis should exclude your=A0 vote from the=A0 poll ....=0A>>=0A>>= G.=0A>>=0A>> --------------------------------------------------=0A>> From:= "pws" =0A>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:24 PM=0A>= > To: =0A>> Subject: Re: LF: Poll announcemen= t=0A>>=0A>>> John,=0A>>>=0A>>> You wrote:=0A>>>> ...=0A>>>> Now that you've= had a chance to try the Yahoo! Groups list,=0A>>>> how do you want to cont= inue?=0A>>>>=0A>>>> o With the Yahoo! Groups list=0A>>>> o With the Blacksh= eep.org list=0A>>>> o Both lists=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>> To vote, please visit= the following web page:=0A>>>> http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/rsgb_lf_gr= oup/surveys?id=3D13140385=0A>>>=0A>>> I got what expected:=0A>>> """=0A>>> = To enjoy this Web-only feature of rsgb_lf_group, you need to enable Web=0AA= ccess.=0A>>>=0A>>> With Web Access, you'll enjoy your group's online photos= , polls, links,=0Amessage archive search, and more!=0A>>>=0A>>> Get Web Acc= ess to rsgb_lf_group=0A>>>=0A>>> If you already receive email from rsgb_lf_= group, it's easy to get Web=0AAccess and make your Yahoo! Group experience = complete.=0A>>>=0A>>> To activate Web Access for rsgb_lf_group, click "Get = Started Now".=0A>>>=0A>>> Not a Member of rsgb_lf_group?=0A>>> If you are n= ot currently a member of rsgb_lf_group, join this group now.=0A>>> """=0A>>= >=0A>>> No, thanks!=0A>>> I'm voting for the continuity of this reflector. = That's all.=0A>>>=0A>>> Peter, df3lp=0A>>>=0A> ---67346210-1719420055-1338811035=:68106 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Apologies for repeating myself, personally I don't see how peop= le who would prefer to stay with one list could decide also for people= who would prefer to stay with the other (or both).
= Regards
D.

Da: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
<= span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">A: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Inviato: Luned=EC 4 Giu= gno 2012 13:51
Oggetto: Re: LF: Poll announcement

What I would like to see= is a VOTE taking place openly on both reflectors
for all to SEE ie TRAN= SPARENT and DEMOCRATIC and not a closed shop approach
on one reflector.<= br>Let the 155 subscribers please VOTE openly
G3KEV

----- Origina= l Message -----
From: "Roger Lapthorn" <rogerlapthorn@gmai= l.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /a>>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Poll ann= ouncement


The poll is open until June 11th Stefan!

73s
Roger

-- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver --

= On 3 Jun 2012, at 22:34, Stefan
Sch=E4fer<Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:

>= ; It wasn't possible to take part in the poll even after subscribing. Sothis cannot be serious! Apart from the democratic conflict which is see to= o.
> I think the different opinions are clear after that day.
>= Now i want to focus on amateur radio again, whatever the frequency mightbe.
>
> Stefan/DK7FC
>
> Am 03.06.2012 16:29, sch= rieb Graham:
>> Slight democratic  conflict  ..  yo= u  have to  be a  member of the  yahoo
group  t= o  vote , therefore you  have a  declared interests in yahoo=   , so
this should exclude your  vote from the  poll ....
>>
>> G.
>>
>> ------------------= --------------------------------
>> From: "pws" <pws@leg= al-medicine.de>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:24 PM
&= gt;> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>>> Subject: Re: LF: Poll announcement
>>
>>> J= ohn,
>>>
>>> You wrote:
>>>> ...
= >>>> Now that you've had a chance to try the Yahoo! Groups list= ,
>>>> how do you want to continue?
>>>>
&= gt;>>> o With the Yahoo! Groups list
>>>> o With th= e Blacksheep.org list
>>>> o Both lists
>>>><= br>>>>>
>>>> To vote, please visit the following web page:
>>>> http://uk.groups.yah= oo.com/group/rsgb_lf_group/surveys?id=3D13140385
>>>
>= ;>> I got what expected:
>>> """
>>> To enjoy= this Web-only feature of rsgb_lf_group, you need to enable Web
Access.<= br>>>>
>>> With Web Access, you'll enjoy your group's = online photos, polls, links,
message archive search, and more!
>&g= t;>
>>> Get Web Access to rsgb_lf_group
>>>
&= gt;>> If you already receive email from rsgb_lf_group, it's easy to g= et Web
Access and make your Yahoo! Group experience complete.
>>= ;>
>>> To activate Web Access for rsgb_lf_group, click "Get = Started Now".
>>>
>>> Not a Member of rsgb_lf_group= ?
>>> If you are not currently a member of rsgb_lf_group, join this group now.
>>> """
>>>
>>> No, th= anks!
>>> I'm voting for the continuity of this reflector. That= 's all.
>>>
>>> Peter, df3lp
>>>
>= ;





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