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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Thanks for all the info Graham locally we have Chris G3XIZ on and now me it only leaves Dennis MoJXM who I am sure will get into this, I mailed him today via this medium. The Rig I described it is capable of much higher power (depending upon output FET currently an IR840?) with increase in PA voltage it's currently got 12volts applied. Because I use 7812 voltage regulators for the logic stages they will only stand about 25volts max, with this rig, limits the power to around 30 to 40 Watts O/P. Suppose I could separate the supply to the PA and get a lot more from the device I supose. The output goes straight into the aerial 100mm diameter transformer via a short coax lead then to 2 link turns, then from the "Top" of the transformer to the up lead which goes through teflon insulating washers throught the wall and straight up to the 8inch ribbed glass insulator about 35 feet then on a slope to a 24foot mast (soon to increased to 35feet). Tuned against several long earthing wires. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [77.238.189.92 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (m0fmt[at]yahoo.co.uk) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 FSL_FREEMAIL_2 FSL_FREEMAIL_2 0.0 FSL_FREEMAIL_1 FSL_FREEMAIL_1 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 91e1efbff209cbddb14bc9e018c2cfe8 Subject: Re: LF: Re: beacon on 501.59kc/s USB RX dial - NOW QRT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="435439028-1366730205-1338658900=:90499" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:480200640:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m265.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404b4fca50a15c1a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --435439028-1366730205-1338658900=:90499 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for all the info Graham locally we have Chris G3XIZ on and now me it= only leaves Dennis MoJXM who I am sure will get into this, I mailed him to= day ........... via this medium.=0A=A0=0AThe Rig I=A0described it is capabl= e of much higher power (depending upon output FET currently an IR840?) with= increase in PA voltage it's currently got 12volts applied. Because I use 7= 812 voltage regulators for the logic stages they will only stand about 25vo= lts max, with this rig, limits the power to around 30 to 40 Watts O/P. Supp= ose I could separate the supply to the PA and get a lot more from the devic= e I supose.=0AThe output goes straight into the aerial 100mm diameter trans= former via a short=A0coax lead then to=A02 link turns,=A0then from the "Top= " of the transformer to the=A0up lead which goes through teflon insulating = washers throught the wall and straight up=A0 to the 8inch ribbed glass=A0in= sulator about 35 feet then on=A0a slope to a 24foot mast (soon to increased= to 35feet). Tuned against several long earthing wires.=0A=0A73 es GL Pete = M0FMT IO91UX=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Graham =0ATo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0ASent: Saturday, = 2 June 2012, 17:19=0ASubject: Re: LF: Re: beacon on 501.59kc/s USB RX dial= =0A =0A=0A =0AOk=A0 Pete, =0A=0AThese are all=A0 the=A0 decodes=A0 I have = , I was using the=A0 =0ASkanti=A0 r5003=A0 Rx=A0 with=A0=A0=A0 40 ft alloy = =0Ascaffold=A0 pole=A0=A0 vertical=A0 , no=A0 atu , only=A0 =0Athe=A0 pre-s= elector=A0 in the=A0 rx , fed vis=A0 abt=A0 90 feet =0Aof=A0 rg213 coax = =0A=0AGood=A0 signal=A0 for=A0 10 watts=A0 , just on the=A0 =0Aedge=A0 for = the=A0 qso=A0 mode=A0 , at=A0 -20 dB=A0 minimum , =0Abut=A0 15 watts=A0 wou= ld=A0 do=A0 the=A0 job ! =0A=0AAs I say=A0 its=A0 the=A0 only=A0 plug-and-p= lay=A0=A0 =0Adata=A0 mode=A0 , just plug in place of the=A0 CW key=A0 ( the= =A0 =0Adevelopment=A0 was=A0 based on the=A0 racal=A0 ma1723=A0 , =0Ain=A0 = CW mode at=A0 20=A0 wpm=A0 as the maximum=A0=A0 =0Akeying=A0 speed and=A0 e= nvelope=A0 shape) =0A=0A=0A73 -G. =0A=A0 =0A=A0 =0A=A0 =0A=A0 =0A14:00 500 = M0FMT Op4 -21 dB13:39 500 M0FMT Op4 -21 dB =0A13:26 500 M0FMT Op4 -21 dB = =0A13:19 500 M0FMT Op4 -21 dB =0A13:13 500 M0FMT Op4 -21 dB =0A13:07 500 M0= FMT Op4 -21 dB =0A13:02 500 M0FMT Op4 -21 dB =0A12:57 500 M0FMT Op4 -21 dB = =0A12:50 500 M0FMT Op4 -21 dB =0A12:43 500 M0FMT Op4 -20 dB =0A12:38 500 M0= FMT Op4 -20 dB =0A12:34 500 M0FMT Op4 -20 dB =0A12:14 500 M0FMT Op4 -21 dB = =0A12:02 500 M0FMT Op4 -22 dB=0A11:54 500 M0FMT Op4 -27 dB =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A= From: M0FMT =0ASent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 1:59 PM =0ATo: rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org =0ASubject: Re: LF: Re: beacon on 501.59kc/s USB RX =0Adial= =0A =0AHi Graham =0A=A0 =0AYes very pleased with it so far I will change p= ower soon trying to =0Amake up a PWM cct to have a continuously variable po= wer on the rig (GW3UEP) Class E Fet O/P =0Astage Gate. PC not crashed .... = wait for it! .... for a bit now actually done =0Anothing to stop it....... = weird. =0A=A0I have only just got my head around opera...... =A0thought it= was =0Aa linear mode but this makes sense for LF comms. much =0Amore like = a CW transmission which I like. =0A=0AThanks for all the info on opera btw.= =0A=0A73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A=0A=0A________________________________= =0AFrom: Graham =0A=0ATo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep= .org =0ASent: Saturday, 2 June 2012, =0A13:37=0ASubject: Re: LF: Re: =0Abea= con on 501.59kc/s USB RX dial=0A=0A=0AWow=A0=A0 and that=A0 was=A0 just usi= ng the=A0 Op=A0 =0Aw/fall !=A0 You=A0 could=A0 reduce to=A0 2 watts=A0=A0 = =0Aand=A0 still=A0 decode !=A0=A0 =0A=0AGlad the=A0 system=A0 is=A0 workin= g=A0 for=A0 you =0A=0AG.. =0A=0A =0AFrom: M0FMT =0ASent: Saturday, June = 02, 2012 1:33 PM =0ATo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0ASubject: Re: LF: R= e: beacon on 501.59kc/s USB RX =0Adial =0A =0AThanks Paul =0A=A0 =0AGraham = is right about QRG. =0A=A0 =0AMy PC keeps crashing so may go back to QRSS3 = using my HB PIC keyer =0A(not affected by RF) on the same QRG. Thanks fer l= ooking.=0A =0A73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A=0A=0A__________________________= ______=0AFrom: Graham =0ATo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org =0ASent: Saturday, 2 June 2012, =0A13:12=0ASubject: Re: LF: Re: =0A= beacon on 501.59kc/s USB RX dial=0A=0A=0A =0Acould be=A0=A0 503.275=A0 ?=A0= =A0 +/-=A0=A0 a =0Abit=A0 ! =0A=0AG. =0A=0A =0AFrom: Clemens Paul =0ASent:= Saturday, June 02, 2012 12:58 PM =0ATo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0AC= c: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk =0ASubject: LF: Re: beacon on 501.59kc/= s USB RX dial =0A =0A>on 501.59kc/s USB RX dial setting =0A=A0 =0AWhat is t= he actual tx qrg then? =0AJust for exactly looking if the signal is visible= at =0Aall. =0A=A0 =0A73=0AClemens=0ADL4RAJ =0A----- Original Message ----= - =0A>From: M0FMT =0A>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Sent: Saturda= y, June 02, 2012 1:21 PM =0A>Subject: LF: beacon on 501.59kc/s USB RX dial = =0A>=0A> =0A>Hi All=0A>=0A>Please report my beacon on 501.59kc/s USB RX dia= l =0A setting. Temporary QRG.=0A>=0A>73 Pete FMT=0A> =0A>=0A>73 es GL Pet= e M0FMT IO91UX=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A>=A0 =0A>E-Ma= il ist virenfrei.=0A>Von AVG =FCberpr=FCft - www.avg.de=0A>Version: =0A 20= 12.0.2178 / Virendatenbank: 2425/5038 - Ausgabedatum: 01.06.2012 --435439028-1366730205-1338658900=:90499 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for all the = info Graham locally we have Chris G3XIZ on and now me it only leaves Dennis= MoJXM who I am sure will get into this, I mailed him today ........... via= this medium.
 
The Rig = I described it is capable of much higher power (depending upon output = FET currently an IR840?) with increase in PA voltage it's currently got 12v= olts applied. Because I use 7812 voltage regulators for the logic stages th= ey will only stand about 25volts max, with this rig, limits the power to ar= ound 30 to 40 Watts O/P. Suppose I could separate the supply to the PA and = get a lot more from the device I supose.
The output = goes straight into the aerial 100mm diameter transformer via a short c= oax lead then to 2 link turns, then from the "Top" of the transformer to the up lead which goes through teflon insulating washe= rs throught the wall and straight up  to the 8inch ribbed glass insulator about 35 feet then on a slope= to a 24foot mast (soon to increased to 35feet). Tuned against several long= earthing wires.
 
73 es GL Pete= M0FMT IO91UX
From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk><= br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org
Sent: Saturday, 2 June 20= 12, 17:19
Subject: Re:= LF: Re: beacon on 501.59kc/s USB RX dial

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Ok  Pete,
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These are all  the  decode= s  I have , I was using the  =0ASkanti  r5003  Rx = with    40 ft alloy =0Ascaffold  pole   vert= ical  , no  atu , only  =0Athe  pre-selector  in t= he  rx , fed vis  abt  90 feet =0Aof  rg213 coax
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=0A
Good  signal  for  10 watts = ; , just on the  =0Aedge  for the  qso  mode  , at=   -20 dB  minimum , =0Abut  15 watts  would  do&nb= sp; the  job !
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As I say  its&nbs= p; the  only  plug-and-play   =0Adata  mode  = , just plug in place of the  CW key  ( the  =0Adevelopment&n= bsp; was  based on the  racal  ma1723  , =0Ain  CW= mode at  20  wpm  as the maximum   =0Akeying = ; speed and  envelope  shape)
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73 -G.
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=0AFrom: M0FMT
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Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 1:59 PM
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: beacon on 501.59kc/s USB RX = =0Adial
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Hi Graham
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=0A
Yes very pleased with it so far I w= ill change power soon trying to =0Amake up a PWM cct to have a continuously =0Avariable power = on the rig (GW3UEP) Class E Fet = O/P =0Astage Gate. PC not crashed .... wait for it! .... for a bit now actu= ally done =0Anothing to stop it....... = weird.
=0A
=0A
 I have o= nly just got my head around opera......  thought it was =0Aa linear mo= de but this makes sense for LF comms. much =0Amore like a CW transmission which I like.
=0A
 =
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Thanks for all the info on opera btw.
=0A
 =0A
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
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From: Graham =0A<g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
<= b>To: rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org =0A
Sent: Saturda= y, 2 June 2012, =0A13:37
Subject:<= /span> Re: LF: Re: =0Abeacon on 501.59kc/s USB RX dial
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Wow   and that&nb= sp; was  just using the  Op  =0Aw/fall !  You  cou= ld  reduce to  2 watts   =0Aand  still  decod= e !  
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Glad the  system&nbs= p; is  working  for  you
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G= ..
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From: M0FMT
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Sent: Saturday, J= une 02, 2012 1:33 PM
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: beacon = on 501.59kc/s USB RX =0Adial
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Thanks P= aul
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Graham is ri= ght about QRG.
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My PC keeps crashing so may go b= ack to QRSS3 using my HB PIC keyer =0A(not affected by RF) on the same QRG.= Thanks fer looking.
=0A
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
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From: =0AGraham &= lt;g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =0A
Sent: Saturday, 2 = June 2012, =0A13:12
Subject: Re: LF: Re: =0Abeacon on 501.59kc/s USB RX dial

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could be&n= bsp;  503.275  ?   +/-   a =0Abit  !=0A
 
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=0ASent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 12:58 PM
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Subject: LF: Re: beacon on 501.59kc/s USB RX dial
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=0AWhat is the actual tx qrg then?
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73
Clemens
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Sent: =0A Saturday, June 02, 2012 1:21 P= M
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Subject: =0A LF: beacon on 501.59kc/s USB RX= dial
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Hi All

Please report my beacon= on 501.59kc/s USB RX dial =0A setting. Temporary QRG.

73 Pete FMT<= br>
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