Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id EDFBA38000085; Fri, 9 Mar 2012 08:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1S5zZh-0002rf-5V for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:09:37 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1S5zZg-0002rW-6G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:09:36 +0000 Received: from nm2-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.199]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1S5zZf-0001Vs-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:09:36 +0000 Received: from [77.238.189.234] by nm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2012 13:09:29 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.226] by tm15.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2012 13:09:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2012 13:09:29 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 392498.87805.bm@omp1003.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 97073 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Mar 2012 13:09:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1331298569; bh=Va9tN6mTv5re/6Vytn5ngJpnwVXpaAGSZvoZAusaXoM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UhsJNgHB8Y3S1vI2vdOHLUbTn0iDarC92CAQpRd0S/bf9dV2CqnPjyBpQLt6bB6D9S0tyN/ENyEBhGbqQb18aGP1/3dm0KqYtztEf4Ur25FQL5o0TIxlnDql2/TYorWmp6CUpPYU7zclgJvu7Zdu5abQE+Rw6relmVXpn5ULohA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bO0bGAyR2+I7j/sKIJdJWTf1Vvf1RnZ1xWtf5qSBGJgqjuSg6pwPQ6ZwJ0xVq7USoZDaS7gqASfIhveL5qsIubXcRLdreGfcrVWOykK83CdMJPEIZo8w18MgPwQwpp11p8LSsJ4r+j5WhNlO96zb1CXEzoxI/WbhnNFX7EgK31E=; X-YMail-OSG: g41llFkVM1kg51lUegkqOG1hW0RjY0kbJQEQyW7HvRD_nRJ Ce5u.zEd7Q2KBZhxnukXx_fr1.ZlndFUxItaEQPZjKtoxZmfhlcgPZMRq1Az Ry6QgolX5Fr8djWLYNvOSL2FbJ0ETYpgWYxxYqqGs6_d76H8Wg4gvwd6zYgR 8EHCUiBFF.OiriHVp7KO_533_ysrnkyFhleqdFyJWFsJCAbKGtttZtBZCJd8 d6BcQtW3M8XKvyx7jEFhAyduWNqgLsGssUcz6v3pKMbWNU6hPd8JsWvf32A1 EyWgraV5Dpppkp3osz0SOcWXFatKEGew4hZ_GDKp871duycFAEgK2JT130E5 4UDofVhJVQ9_C28UOuAhLyeMvW8Hv_Hmyz55M4Su37i6tgQSq3RzevQ8IS7O c.UU5eDI1iPPRx60yJAQe.T6.eXXN.lyzYuWTFYFAnIQxTI.wNNTtwWqDGKM GDmqYkAJcWGSChw-- Received: from [109.155.42.60] by web86504.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:09:29 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.116.338427 Message-ID: <1331298569.45324.YahooMailClassic@web86504.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 13:09:29 +0000 (GMT) From: ALAN MELIA To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Big solar flare - major geomagnetic storms to follow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:457270656:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d006.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404d4f5a06bd5a6a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Roelof, very interesting! I am always hesitant about extrapolating the r= esults I have for 139kHz up the frequency range. It would seem from your co= mments that the attenuation may be higher (TF & SM are single hop) at highe= r frequencies. This is interesting in the way the ideas fit with 500kHz DX.= I guess maybe I should expect this....but I much prefer solid experimental= data :-))=0A"Never mind the theory, show me the measurements" :-))=0A=0ATh= anks and Best Wishes=0AAlan=0AG3NYK=0A=0A--- On Fri, 9/3/12, Roelof Bakker = wrote:=0A=0A> From: Roelof Bakker =0A> Subject: Re: LF: Big solar flare - major geomagnetic storms to follo= w=0A> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=0A> Date: Friday, 9 March, 2012, 11:= 29=0A> Hello Alan,=0A> =0A> In the NDB band the effects were rather dramati= c.=0A> Propagation from Scandinavia was very poor/non-existant.=0A> Even cl= ose by stations e.g. from Poland were much weaker=0A> than usual.=0A> =0A> = One of my propagation markers is NDB VM-375 from Iceland.=0A> It is very ra= re not to hear it, but yesterday evening it was=0A> completely gone.=0A> At= 04:00 UTC this morning, I could only spot a weak trace.=0A> =0A> The band = noise was also very low, which indicates that=0A> distant QRN was not propa= gated very well!=0A> =0A> All in all quite interesting!=0A> =0A> 73,=0A> Ro= elof, pa0rdt=0A> =0A>