Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 72FD93800008D; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 07:56:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1S3S1S-0000vx-LK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:55:46 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1S3S1R-0000vo-Sf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:55:45 +0000 Received: from nm14-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.246]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1S3S1Q-0000lx-3Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:55:45 +0000 Received: from [98.139.91.62] by nm14.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2012 12:55:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.34] by tm2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2012 12:54:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1034.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2012 12:54:37 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 209243.19002.bm@omp1034.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 31750 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Mar 2012 12:54:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1330692876; bh=o/jJ060+TOgY4RyZ8dS65erTe5OuCa7Jw4o67q4Rkms=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OekzAfwENPQHU/rFaGbhv0MkeySedfmDcTWqauO/8hhpMWywiPfN1qfvV7536w60iKZ3uwhujmJmVAg7UZbFejW/nqJwGf2aQN0GcqX88D/4vI/5ZbpBp3Vk9XwTXWprIzCJp6K0IyVzZK7rnGMnigzZCYTI4q7XWykM/RdzAac= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pDd2V58RddhWmDidH3ZElO/dmxVN9IeZzcyh7F6GveL8d7Eu5DTMQF6NSIic2qEABTkDeqAJ+hnIOFGvEvmV1CHNAJU5ERXjtm3y/XN4slegKcr5485mga65OnpGG73m+y4o0t9uBVwzXx95vrD/numXb29zzR4rUgSnqS+9Z0g=; X-YMail-OSG: nd4b7.0VM1ksSlVbiDgW_9H.PJnWKitIuWGrrJ_PMjkTn_g IsOO3V3JnYTof5JVWuKZqYzBfWp7QZ1KQxdQCfHaLY55XRYl8v7jym_cazjI 266AECkm78o3y.FbTCjRs.XMD5FwxuOF7Lt1jT29pcONUVP_rWWqIUUPlIL7 3_E8ZvlIlYxjBr.ieYpqmfQVZ17k1KG2uzFbVkswvxuoSPJ6VKON__qQXT8U M0_tYJj84m2hrKZy8oV36hGnIC35.x2MRlVNWap7G5pYw6RU7zqfknFGBpLz hHCYFHLftCOhAbyvZb48e0PcvDMtfv14_l_S6Uh_c3HxTnHnFD.WeazDNbGY Jc5muegtynGkOf8QxhnNa3xmA4pKEeyeT_icPZv_ZhTlpPRMbBdo3JTG2jlF A9xRAAPrmAvsb_AztA0m8Bt66mzcYpXOIXXoJrS5VfUkMsXWA26Fn1WJ2aXm AGtc5shZGCalI.zVVz0O4sV46ya9xgrejcjb86qU2_QoZ0T5U_roz6Yh0FQ9 r61U9Zcqz1POmf4h4OSxKqU68LnNM Received: from [88.151.27.235] by web112320.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 04:54:36 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.116.338427 References: <2B0975016B404FB0AAAFFF7FC887ECBC@IBM7FFA209F07C> Message-ID: <1330692876.19668.YahooMailNeo@web112320.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 04:54:36 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Baldwin To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RSGB Membership - Bit off topic. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1234349301-1931677926-1330692876=:19668" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:384443744:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m249.1 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4064f50c38528cf X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --1234349301-1931677926-1330692876=:19668 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also bear in mind that it's the "overseas" members that are truly subsiding= everyone else.=0AIt still costs =A351 a year and we only really get the Ra= dcom as a result, the only other benefit is the spin off through having a b= ig voice in a neighbouring country.=0AAnd they justify it being the same pr= ice by not charging extra for foreign postage, which probably amounts to le= ss than a pound.=0ANot that I'm complaining, I pay =A347 per year for Pract= ical Wireless so =A351 for Radcom ain't that bad.=0A=0ATony, EI8JK=0A=0A=0A= =0A>________________________________=0A> From: David Pratt =0A>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Sent: Friday, 2 March 201= 2, 10:31:58=0A>Subject: Re: LF: RSGB Membership - Bit off topic.=0A> =0A>Be= ar in mind, Chris, the rest of us are subsidising you and other UK=0A>radio= amateurs who are non members of the National Society. Negotiations=0A>with= Ofcom, IARU Region 1 and the ITU (WRC2012, etc) do come at a cost=0A>and w= e're paying it for you :-(=0A>=0A>73 de David G4DMP=0A>=0A>In a recent mess= age, Chris writes=0A>>I was going to join the o= ther day, after entering one of their 6m=0A>>contests, but was shocked to s= ee the sub is =A351. Would have joined=0A>>there and then if it had been mo= re like =A325.=0A>>Locally we have also over the years had many problems wi= th the RSGB=0A>>over repeater licences. For instance, some of their require= ments for=0A>>our ATV repeater could not be met - they were only suitable f= or 'phone=0A>>repeaters - and the endless delays...=0A>-- =0A>+ - - - - - -= - - - - - - - - - - +=0A>| David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds.=A0 |=0A>| Websit= e: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk |=0A>+ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +=0A>=0A>= =0A>=0A>=0A> --1234349301-1931677926-1330692876=:19668 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Also bear in min= d that it's the "overseas" members that are truly subsiding everyone else.<= /div>
It still costs =A351 a year and we only really get the Radcom as = a result, the only other benefit is the spin off through having a big voice= in a neighbouring country.
And they justify it being the same pr= ice by not charging extra for foreign postage, which probably amounts to le= ss than a pound.
Not that I'm complaining, I pay =A347 per year f= or Practical Wireless so =A351 for Radcom ain't that bad.

Tony, EI8JK


From: David Pratt <david@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012, 10:= 31:58
Subject: Re: LF:= RSGB Membership - Bit off topic.

Bear in mind, Chri= s, the rest of us are subsidising you and other UK
radio amateurs who ar= e non members of the National Society. Negotiations
with Ofcom, IARU Reg= ion 1 and the ITU (WRC2012, etc) do come at a cost
and we're paying it f= or you :-(

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Chris <<= a ymailto=3D"mailto:c.ashby435@btinternet.com" href=3D"mailto:c.ashby435@bt= internet.com">c.ashby435@btinternet.com> writes
>I was going t= o join the other day, after entering one of their 6m
>contests, but was shocked= to see the sub is =A351. Would have joined
>there and then if it had= been more like =A325.
>Locally we have also over the years had many = problems with the RSGB
>over repeater licences. For instance, some of= their requirements for
>our ATV repeater could not be met - they wer= e only suitable for 'phone
>repeaters - and the endless delays...
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