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boundary="-942247440-1105766937-1330356157=:77477" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:501550624:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d296.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608a4f4ba27e5b3a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ---942247440-1105766937-1330356157=:77477 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A=0A=0ANow you are talking Mal=A0=A0 ...... :-) Propose it!=0A=0A=0A73 es= GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A=0AFrom: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>=0ATo:= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0ASent: Monday, 27 February 2012, 15:09=0ASu= bject: Re: LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation=0A=0A=0AThe band should= be licensed for CW operators only so that they could recognize and read th= e CW=A0 beacons and AVOID them.=0AHas OFCOM thought of this.=A0=A0Neither s= hould there be any amateur unattended BEACONS=A0to jam the Primary user Bea= cons even unintentionally.=0Ag3kev=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0A>Fr= om: ken.h.wright@btinternet.com =0A>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Se= nt: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:20 PM=0A>Subject: Re: LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-12= LF band allocation=0A>=0A>Hi all. Following on from Tracey's info what wou= ld be the various regulators reaction be if we were crowded out of this ban= d as we only have on a secondary basis. 73. Ken. M00KHW =0A>Sent from my Bl= ackBerry=AE wireless device=0A>From: "Tracey Gardner" <tracey.gardner@talkt= alk.net> =0A>Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Date: Mon, 27 F= eb 2012 11:50:43 -0000=0A>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>=0A>ReplyTo: rs= gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Subject: LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band alloc= ation=0A>=0A>=0A>Hello Ken=0A>=0A>I doubt it, but you never know.=0A>I've j= ust checked our Received In Europe (REU) database and there are some 29 ina= ctive NDBs listed in the 472-479kHz range. =0A>If they were all to become a= ctive that would roughly double the number of NDBs in that segment.=0A>=0A>= http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/=0A>=0A>73s Tracey G5VU=0A>----- Origina= l Message ----- =0A>>From: Ken =0A>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>S= ent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:06 AM=0A>>Subject: LF: NDBs & WRC-12 LF b= and allocation=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Dear all LFs=0A>>=A0=0A>>With the WRC-12 new L= F band allocation is it possible that any dormant NDBs there will be resurr= ected to justify their slot in the band? =0A>>=A0=0A>>73s=0A>>=A0=0A>>Ken= =0A>>=A0=0A>>M0KHW ---942247440-1105766937-1330356157=:77477 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ta= homa, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt"><div><SPAN><BR class=3Dyui-cur= sor></SPAN></div> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <div style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Now you are talking Mal ...... :-) P= ropose it!<VAR id=3Dyui-ie-cursor></VAR></div> <DIV></DIV> <div><BR><BR></div> <DIV>73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX<BR> <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"= > <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SI= ZE: 12pt"> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial> <DIV style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; P= ADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PAD= DING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; B= ORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=3Dhr readonly=3D"true"= contenteditable=3D"false"></DIV><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:= </SPAN></B> mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net><BR><B><SPAN style=3D= "FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <BR><B><SPA= N style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, 27 February 2012, 15= :09<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: LF: Re:= NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation<BR></FONT></DIV><BR> <DIV id=3Dyiv274393560> <STYLE> _filtered #yiv274393560 {margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt;}=0A#yi= v274393560 P.yiv274393560MsoNormal {=0AFONT-SIZE:12pt;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FO= NT-FAMILY:"Times New Roman";}=0A#yiv274393560 LI.yiv274393560MsoNormal {=0A= FONT-SIZE:12pt;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Times New Roman";}=0A#yiv274= 393560 DIV.yiv274393560MsoNormal {=0AFONT-SIZE:12pt;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FONT= -FAMILY:"Times New Roman";}=0A#yiv274393560 A:link {=0ACOLOR:blue;TEXT-DECO= RATION:underline;}=0A#yiv274393560 SPAN.yiv274393560MsoHyperlink {=0ACOLOR:= blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;}=0A#yiv274393560 A:visited {=0ACOLOR:purple= ;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;}=0A#yiv274393560 SPAN.yiv274393560MsoHyperlinkF= ollowed {=0ACOLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;}=0A#yiv274393560 SPAN.y= iv274393560EmailStyle17 {=0ACOLOR:windowtext;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;}=0A#yiv2743= 93560 DIV.yiv274393560Section1 {=0A}=0A</STYLE> <DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The band should be licensed for CW operators only s= o that they could recognize and read the CW beacons and AVOID them.</= FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Has OFCOM thought of this. Neither shoul= d there be any amateur unattended BEACONS to jam the Primary user Beac= ons even unintentionally.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>g3kev</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PAD= DING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title= =3Dken.h.wright@btinternet.com href=3D"mailto:ken.h.wright@btinternet.com" = rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:ken.h.wright@btinternet.co= m">ken.h.wright@btinternet.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" rel=3Dnofollow target= =3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 27, 2012 2:20= PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-= 12 LF band allocation</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi all. Following on from Tracey's info what would be the va= rious regulators reaction be if we were crowded out of this band as we only= have on a secondary basis. 73. Ken. M00KHW=20 <DIV>Sent from my BlackBerry=AE wireless device</DIV> <DIV style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; P= ADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PAD= DING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; B= ORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=3Dhr readonly=3D"true"= contenteditable=3D"false"></DIV> <DIV><B>From: </B>"Tracey Gardner" <<A href=3D"mailto:tracey.gardner@tal= ktalk.net" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:tracey.gardner@= talktalk.net">tracey.gardner@talktalk.net</A>> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sender: </B><A href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" r= el=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Date: </B>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:50:43 -0000</DIV> <DIV><B>To: </B><rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org></DIV> <DIV><B>ReplyTo: </B>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org </DIV> <DIV><B>Subject: </B>LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Hello Ken</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I doubt it, but you never know.</DIV> <DIV>I've just checked our Received In Europe (REU) database and there are = some 29 inactive NDBs listed in the 472-479kHz range. </DIV> <DIV>If they were all to become active that would roughly double the number= of NDBs in that segment.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href=3D"http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/" rel=3Dnofollow target= =3D_blank>http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>73s Tracey G5VU</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PAD= DING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title= =3Dken.h.wright@btinternet.com href=3D"mailto:ken.h.wright@btinternet.com" = rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:ken.h.wright@btinternet.co= m">Ken</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" rel=3Dnofollow target= =3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 27, 2012 10:0= 6 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: NDBs & WRC-12 LF ba= nd allocation</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=3Dyiv274393560Section1> <div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style= =3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>Dear all LFs</SPAN></= FONT></div> <div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style= =3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB> </SPAN></FONT><= /div> <div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style= =3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>With the WRC-12 new L= F band allocation is it possible that any dormant NDBs there will be resurr= ected to justify their slot in the band? </SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style= =3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB> </SPAN></FONT><= /div> <div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style= =3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>73s</SPAN></FONT></di= v> <div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style= =3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB> </SPAN></FONT><= /div> <div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style= =3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>Ken</SPAN></FONT></di= v> <div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style= =3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB> </SPAN></FONT><= /div> <div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style= =3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>M0KHW</SPAN></FONT></= div></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV><= /div></body></html> ---942247440-1105766937-1330356157=:77477--