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=0A=0A=0ANow you are talking Mal=A0=A0 ...... :-) Propose it!=0A=0A=0A73 es=
 GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A=0AFrom: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>=0ATo:=
 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0ASent: Monday, 27 February 2012, 15:09=0ASu=
bject: Re: LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation=0A=0A=0AThe band should=
 be licensed for CW operators only so that they could recognize and read th=
e CW=A0 beacons and AVOID them.=0AHas OFCOM thought of this.=A0=A0Neither s=
hould there be any amateur unattended BEACONS=A0to jam the Primary user Bea=
cons even unintentionally.=0Ag3kev=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0A>Fr=
om: ken.h.wright@btinternet.com =0A>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Se=
nt: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:20 PM=0A>Subject: Re: LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-12=
 LF band allocation=0A>=0A>Hi all. Following on from Tracey's info what wou=
ld be the various regulators reaction be if we were crowded out of this ban=
d as we only have on a secondary basis. 73. Ken. M00KHW =0A>Sent from my Bl=
ackBerry=AE wireless device=0A>From: "Tracey Gardner" <tracey.gardner@talkt=
alk.net> =0A>Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Date: Mon, 27 F=
eb 2012 11:50:43 -0000=0A>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>=0A>ReplyTo: rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Subject: LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band alloc=
ation=0A>=0A>=0A>Hello Ken=0A>=0A>I doubt it, but you never know.=0A>I've j=
ust checked our Received In Europe (REU) database and there are some 29 ina=
ctive NDBs listed in the 472-479kHz range. =0A>If they were all to become a=
ctive that would roughly double the number of NDBs in that segment.=0A>=0A>=
http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/=0A>=0A>73s Tracey G5VU=0A>----- Origina=
l Message ----- =0A>>From: Ken =0A>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>S=
ent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:06 AM=0A>>Subject: LF: NDBs & WRC-12 LF b=
and allocation=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Dear all LFs=0A>>=A0=0A>>With the WRC-12 new L=
F band allocation is it possible that any dormant NDBs there will be resurr=
ected to justify their slot in the band? =0A>>=A0=0A>>73s=0A>>=A0=0A>>Ken=
=0A>>=A0=0A>>M0KHW
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Now you are talking Mal&nbsp;&nbsp; ...... :-) P=
ropose it!<VAR id=3Dyui-ie-cursor></VAR></div>
<DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX<BR>
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 contenteditable=3D"false"></DIV><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:=
</SPAN></B> mal hamilton &lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <BR><B><SPA=
N style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, 27 February 2012, 15=
:09<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: LF: Re:=
 NDBs &amp; WRC-12 LF band allocation<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The band should be licensed for CW operators only s=
o that they could recognize and read the CW&nbsp; beacons and AVOID them.</=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Has OFCOM thought of this.&nbsp;&nbsp;Neither shoul=
d there be any amateur unattended BEACONS&nbsp;to jam the Primary user Beac=
ons even unintentionally.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>g3kev</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PAD=
DING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=3Dltr>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=
=3Dken.h.wright@btinternet.com href=3D"mailto:ken.h.wright@btinternet.com" =
rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:ken.h.wright@btinternet.co=
m">ken.h.wright@btinternet.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" rel=3Dnofollow target=
=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@bla=
cksheep.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 27, 2012 2:20=
 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: NDBs &amp; WRC-=
12 LF band allocation</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi all. Following on from Tracey's info what would be the va=
rious regulators reaction be if we were crowded out of this band as we only=
 have on a secondary basis. 73. Ken. M00KHW=20
<DIV>Sent from my BlackBerry=AE wireless device</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; P=
ADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PAD=
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ORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=3Dhr readonly=3D"true"=
 contenteditable=3D"false"></DIV>
<DIV><B>From: </B>"Tracey Gardner" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:tracey.gardner@tal=
ktalk.net" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:tracey.gardner@=
talktalk.net">tracey.gardner@talktalk.net</A>&gt; </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sender: </B><A href=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" r=
el=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org">owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Date: </B>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:50:43 -0000</DIV>
<DIV><B>To: </B>&lt;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&gt;</DIV>
<DIV><B>ReplyTo: </B>rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject: </B>LF: Re: NDBs &amp; WRC-12 LF band allocation</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Hello Ken</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I doubt it, but you never know.</DIV>
<DIV>I've just checked our Received In Europe (REU) database and there are =
some 29 inactive NDBs listed in the 472-479kHz range. </DIV>
<DIV>If they were all to become active that would roughly double the number=
 of NDBs in that segment.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/" rel=3Dnofollow target=
=3D_blank>http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>73s Tracey G5VU</DIV>
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DING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=3Dltr>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=
=3Dken.h.wright@btinternet.com href=3D"mailto:ken.h.wright@btinternet.com" =
rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:ken.h.wright@btinternet.co=
m">Ken</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" rel=3Dnofollow target=
=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@bla=
cksheep.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 27, 2012 10:0=
6 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: NDBs &amp; WRC-12 LF ba=
nd allocation</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dyiv274393560Section1>
<div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>Dear all LFs</SPAN></=
FONT></div>
<div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><=
/div>
<div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>With the WRC-12 new L=
F band allocation is it possible that any dormant NDBs there will be resurr=
ected to justify their slot in the band? </SPAN></FONT></div>
<div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><=
/div>
<div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>73s</SPAN></FONT></di=
v>
<div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><=
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<div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>Ken</SPAN></FONT></di=
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<div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><=
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<div class=3Dyiv274393560MsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=3DEN-GB>M0KHW</SPAN></FONT></=
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