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Received: from [98.93.137.119] by web125501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:34:54 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.116.331537 References: <028301ccdc7f$3fa77c40$bef674c0$@broadpark.no> <009501ccdc80$90765320$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <000f01ccdcda$a96e4860$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Message-ID: <1327685694.88385.YahooMailNeo@web125501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:34:54 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Anderson To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" In-Reply-To: <000f01ccdcda$a96e4860$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TINY_FONT=1.425 Subject: Re: LF: Re: The Lentus mode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="329289550-1419360192-1327685694=:88385" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:501554880:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m007.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60ce4f22e6a403eb X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --329289550-1419360192-1327685694=:88385 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mal,=0A=A0=0A=A0=0AI will admit that I have my concerns occasionally about = some of your pronouncements on certain issues... but in this instance, *to = a degree*, I have to agree with your sentiments on this particular subject.= While I see=A0the need of and interest in=A0*all* modes of communications,= I also bemoan the subservience of the operator to the technology. I am a S= WL'er, not being licensed (although looking at FCC Part 15 options maybe la= ter), and my presence=A0on this list=A0is out of interest rather than actua= l active participation in transmission. As such, I have had my fair share o= f moments of straining my ears and fiddling with knobs to tune in the diffi= cult DX-- and I guess that, as much as I respect the op with the skill to g= et a weak signal out great distances using the technology at hand, I have t= o say that the 'small-child fascination' is lost for me, along with some of= the fun,=A0when I think of some of these digital modes.=0A=A0=0AOf course,= that's just me. Even so, I loudly applaud what the ops on this list have a= ccomplished and will yet accomplish. Now excuse me, I have to get the tensi= on adjusted in the string between my tin can and the one in the neighbor's = bedroom=A0 ;)=0A=A0=0A=A0=0A73 de Scott/WA4168SWL=0A=A0=0A_________________= _______________=0A=0AFrom: mal hamilton =0ATo: rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org =0ASent: Friday, January 27, 2012 4:01 AM=0ASubject= : Re: LF: Re: The Lentus mode=0A=0A=0A>I said it was Fantastic!!!!! No nega= tivity about that. Are you keen on Opera=0A>??=0A>There will soon be an ind= ividual digi MODE of some sort for every Operator=0A>on the amateur bands s= trangely enough this will not be a problem because no=0A>communications bet= ween operators is intended it is all one way BEACON mode.=0A>Set your compu= ter to display a blurr on a screen and report via Internet.=0A>Go out danci= ng, shopping or go to bed but importantly keep out of the shack,=0A>Operato= r not needed. This is definitely progress and a positive way forward=0A>com= pared to the traditional method where the Operator was always present and= =0A>his/her skills were a necessity for a successful communications result.= =0A>A robot(JILES) mobile interface would be useful to report to the Operat= or so=0A>the operator need never go near the shack.=0A>Will the traditional= Radio Amateur give way eventually to the Appliance=0A>Operator/Robot ?? Th= inking Positively I hope not=0A>=0A>=0A>----- Original Message -----=0A>Fro= m: "Roger Lapthorn" =0A>To: =0A>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:45 AM=0A>Subject: Re: LF: Re:= The Lentus mode=0A>=0A>=0A>Mal=0A>=0A>It is called true experimentation an= d what, arguably, our hobby is really=0A>about. Don't be so negative always= , please.=0A>=0A>73s=0A>Roger G3XBM=0A>=0A>-- Via my iPod Touch 4g --=0A>= =0A>On 26 Jan 2012, at 23:16, "mal hamilton" wrote:= =0A>=0A>> Another NEW mode. This is fantastic !!!=0A>> g3kev=0A>>=0A>> ----= - Original Message -----=0A>> From: "Steinar Aanesland" =0A>> To: =0A>> Sent: Thursday, January 26,= 2012 11:07 PM=0A>> Subject: LF: The Lentus mode=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>> Hi all=0A>= >>=0A>>> Patrick F6CTE the maker of multipsk have made a new qrp mode.=A0 H= e has=0A>> called it=A0 the Lentus mode. The goal of this mode is to=0A>>> = perform VLF to HF communications at a very low S/N (-34 dB with a noise=0A>= > bandwidth of 3 KHz).=0A>>>=0A>>> The Lentus mode is incorporate in his la= test version of Mulitpsk version=0A>> 4.21 beta.=0A>>>=0A>>> Patrick has do= cumented the mode well as he always do. You can download a=0A>> description= of the mode for my dropbox:=0A>>>=0A>>=0A>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257= /Specifications%201.0%20of%20the%20Lentus%20=0A>> mode.pdf=0A>>> and if you= find it interesting you can download a copy of multipsk here:=0A>>> http:/= /dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257/MULTIPSK_TEST_26_01_2012.ZIP=0A>>>=0A>>> By the = way, I am running a beacon on 7037,5 USB=A0 +1000Hz now . The power=0A>> is= 2W. It is has been captured bay Max iz6rmr -18db.=0A>>>=0A>>> 73 de la5vna= Steinar=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> --329289550-1419360192-1327685694=:88385 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mal,
 
 
I will= admit that I have my concerns occasionally about some of your pronouncemen= ts on certain issues... but in this instance, *to a degree*, I have to agre= e with your sentiments on this particular subject. While I see the nee= d of and interest in *all* modes of communications, I also bemoan the = subservience of the operator to the technology. I am a SWL'er, not being li= censed (although looking at FCC Part 15 options maybe later), and my presen= ce on this list is out of interest rather than actual active part= icipation in transmission. As such, I have had my fair share of moments of = straining my ears and fiddling with knobs to tune in the difficult DX-- and= I guess that, as much as I respect the op with the skill to get a weak signal out great distances using the technology at hand, I have to sa= y that the 'small-child fascination' is lost for me, along with some of the= fun, when I think of some of these digital modes.
 
Of course, that's just me. Even so, I lou= dly applaud what the ops on this list have accomplished and will yet accomp= lish. Now excuse me, I have to get the tension adjusted in the string betwe= en my tin can and the one in the neighbor's bedroom  ;)
 
 
73 de = Scott/WA4168SWL
 
From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
To= : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: The Lentus mode<= br>

=0AI said it was Fant= astic!!!!! No negativity about that. Are you keen on Opera
??
There w= ill soon be an individual digi MODE of some sort for every Operator
on t= he amateur bands strangely enough this will not be a problem because no
= communications between operators is intended it is all one way BEACON mode.=
Set your computer to display a blurr on a screen and report via Interne= t.
Go out dancing, shopping or go to bed but importantly keep out of the= shack,
Operator not needed. This is definitely progress and a positive = way forward
compared to the traditional method where the Operator was al= ways present and
his/her skills were a necessity for a successful commun= ications result.
A robot(JILES) mobile interface would be useful to repo= rt to the Operator so
the operator need never go near the shack.
Will= the traditional Radio Amateur give way eventually to the Appliance
Oper= ator/Robot ?? Thinking Positively I hope not


----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Lapthorn" <= rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
To: <= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:4= 5 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: The Lentus mode


Mal

It is ca= lled true experimentation and what, arguably, our hobby is really
about.= Don't be so negative always, please.

73s
Roger G3XBM

-- V= ia my iPod Touch 4g --

On 26 Jan 2012, at 23:16, "mal hamilton" <= g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:

> Another NEW mode. T= his is fantastic !!!
> g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message -= ----
> From: "Steinar Aanesland" <saanes@broadpark.no>
>= To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> = Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:07 PM
> Subject: LF: The Lentus m= ode
>
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Patrick F6CT= E the maker of multipsk have made a new qrp mode.  He has
> call= ed it  the Lentus mode. The goal of this mode is to
>> perfor= m VLF to HF communications at a very low S/N (-34 dB with a noise
> b= andwidth of 3 KHz).
>>
>> The Lentus mode is incorporate = in his latest version of Mulitpsk version
> 4.21 beta.
>>>> Patrick has documented the mode well as he always do. You can dow= nload a
> description of the mode for my dropbox:
>>
>
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257/Specifica= tions%201.0%20of%20the%20Lentus%20
> mode.pdf
>> and if you = find it interesting you can download a copy of multipsk here:
>> h= ttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257/MULTIPSK_TEST_26_01_2012.ZIP
>>>> By the way, I am running a beacon on 7037,5 USB  +1000Hz now= . The power
> is 2W. It is has been captured bay Max iz6rmr -18db.>>
>> 73 de la5vna Steinar
>>
>>
>= >
>>
>>
>
>





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