X-GM-THRID: 1243525002459918446 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.87.11 with SMTP id k11cs135671wxb; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 05:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.108.9 with SMTP id g9mr664506buc.1185971516750; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 05:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 32si695922nfu.2007.08.01.05.31.53; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 05:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IGDGr-00087r-TY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:25:45 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IGDGp-00087i-Fa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:25:44 +0100 Received: from s2.ukfsn.org ([217.158.120.143] helo=mail.ukfsn.org) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IGDGi-0001jg-1m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:25:40 +0100 Received: from localhost (smtpfilter.ukfsn.org [217.158.120.140]) by mail.ukfsn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B715E6E51 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:25:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.ukfsn.org ([217.158.120.143]) by localhost (smtp-filter.ukfsn.org [217.158.120.140]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LObGcLrbD33S for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:29:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.249.253.242] (62-249-253-242.dial.entanet.co.uk [62.249.253.242]) by mail.ukfsn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC286E6D3E for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:25:06 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Savage To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <006b01c7d3ba$78370d00$0300a8c0@lark> References: <006b01c7d3ba$78370d00$0300a8c0@lark> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:24:59 +0100 Message-Id: <1185971099.4593.67.camel@admin> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0-1mdv2007.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 Permit Allocation conditions Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1501 On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 22:33 +0100, Alan Melia wrote: > One final question why did it matter that it sounded like bedlam in this > country today? I though everyone was trying to see whether there signal > could be heard in Spain, not in the UK. I havent seen any complaint from > Jose-Manual yet ! > > I think some awareness of the nature of this reflector needs to be taken > into account, before you let out all your histrionics. You could be sinking > a awfull lot of work by several people to get this allocation at > all.....dont mess it up ! > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > > > Well said Alan, I was very pleased to see three test signals running over here in the West yesterday, my experiments with a short AE were greatly enhanced by the fact there was some activity on an otherwise barren 501 - 504 spectrum. I know for a fact that there are other stations in the West who would like to see more test signal activity within this allocation, it is most useful during the daytime (I don't do night watches anymore). We rely very much on GW3UEP and GW4HXO for these daytime signals for test purposes. If you have a decent receiver then a multitude of signals in close proximity to each other is not a problem. The allocation 501 - 504 kHz is for experimentation not for DXCC or weekend contest working, but there seems to be a small group of unprofessional people on this reflector behaving rather like small boys and trying to lay down totally unnecessary rules. I understand they killed a lot of interest in 136kHz by this sort of nonsense. To them I would say "Mummy's calling ....go home and play with your train sets". (With apologies to any serious railway enthusiasts). Bob GW3LTX