Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17241 invoked from network); 31 May 2003 09:40:30 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 31 May 2003 09:40:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 17670 invoked from network); 31 May 2003 09:40:30 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 31 May 2003 09:40:30 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19M2pY-0008Of-Qa for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 31 May 2003 10:39:16 +0100 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19M2pT-0008OW-R4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 31 May 2003 10:39:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 15389 invoked from network); 31 May 2003 07:00:00 +0400 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 31 May 2003 07:00:00 +0400 Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 13:39:01 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <11413185480.20030531133901@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: PLC in exUSSR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello LF enthusiasts! I have seen some books abt Power Lines Carrier of the power companies in ex USSR. I also had conversation with the specialists in this area of communication. I can inform some details... 1.Range of used frequencies 36... 620 kHz. 2.The two-channel duplex system(number of channels - 12 with 4kHz wide), for example 36-84 kHz(bottom) and 92-143 kHz(top) pairs of frequencies is used. It is interesting, that at such variant the control frequencies 96 or 136 kHz(!!) are used. The narrow-band electromechanical filters are applied for this purpose (for controls frequencies). 3.On channels the telephone conversations and (or) telecontrol can be transferred. 4.Modulation - SSB or FM. Output power 20...100w. 5.Possible distances - up to 100km. 6.The specialists speak, that they have no QRM from Russian Loran, RSDN or LF/MF broadcasting stations on such channels of communication !(?) They do not know what this such (can be they the bad specialists? ;-) But they confirm that this communication via Power Lines "dies" in Russia and other exUSSR - the equipment is not made any more. 7.The basic QRM of such communication - electrical handicapes in high-voltage wires ("Crown"), damaged isolators, crude weather and thunder-storms. But the communication via Power Lines sometimes creates QRM to other telecommunications! 8.I listened to frequencies of the nearest power companies, but accepted very poorly (on headphones). My questions: - About such communication and QRM from HAMs speaks FCC? - The similar communication in USA, Canada and Europe is used? 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru