X-GM-THRID: 1220422427979444373 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 71ccb52cc74fded12cda1b78d507514451cfd443 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.28.15 with SMTP id b15cs176875wxb; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.204.1 with SMTP id b1mr3653815hug.1163892332893; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:25:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 27si5539921hua.2006.11.18.15.25.31; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:25:32 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GlZWn-000200-9b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:23:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.35] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GlZWm-0001zr-TC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:23:16 +0000 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.192.83]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GlZWh-0003Ya-Er for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:23:16 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter76.comcast.net ([204.127.197.158]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20061118232304m13004n3hce>; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:23:04 +0000 Received: from [24.91.125.179] by rmailcenter76.comcast.net; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:23:03 +0000 From: k2ors@comcast.net (Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Cc: "Alan Melia" Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:23:03 +0000 Message-Id: <111820062323.14762.455F95D7000768CB000039AA22064244130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWFyeWphbmVib3lkQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.44,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: Re: LF: RE: WD2XGJ tonight X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3741 Hi Alan, Thanks for the analysis and explanation of the propagation modes. I've shut down now 23:20 two hours after local sunset to give the TX and tuner a break, will fire it back up in an hour or so. -- 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23 FN42hi http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Alan Melia" > Hi Both, > What is more interesting is that the darkness shadow at 100km altitude is > still about 2000km east of Warren at that time. So he is either hefting a > signal over on a single hop (at least to the UK) or he is D-layer bouncing > it into the darkness zone. I have my doubts about this last explanation as > the absorption increases just before sunset. You should see him dip down in > strength and then comup to full strength as the two hop path becomes fully > dark, This will occur around local sunset, but the darkness shadow at 100km > altitude will still be 1000km east of Warren.....the position for the first > skywave "bounce". It is quite interesting how accurately this ties up with > the simple geometry. > http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/geometry.htm > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23 > To: ; > Cc: Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 18 November 2006 21:40 > Subject: Re: LF: RE: WD2XGJ tonight > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > Same here from 2030 UTC but weak. > > > > Thanks for the report, 20:30 was still daylight here, sunset is 21:20 > UTC today. > > > > -- > > 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23 > > FN42hi > > http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: "Gary - G4WGT" > > > Hi Warren & LF, > > > > > > Same here from 2030 UTC but weak. > > > > > > 73 > > > > > > Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolff > > > Sent: 18 November 2006 20:48 > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > Subject: LF: WD2XGJ tonight > > > > > > XGJ visible here since about 20:10 UTC. > > > > > > 73 > > > Hartmut > > > www.h-wolff.de > > > Locator: JO52hp > > > > > > > > > > > >