Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3097 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 14:55:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 14:55:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 9660 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 14:58:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 14:58:55 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14OL6W-0003hR-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:52:56 +0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14OL6T-0003hL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:52:53 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44]) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #4) id 14OL6F-0003Da-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:52:39 +0000 Message-ID: <11108.200102011452@gemini> From: "James Moritz" Organization: University of Hertfordshire To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:56:38 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: LF: Beacon sigs / Ferrite grades X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear LF group, Transmitted the usual beacon signal on 135.923kHz from 2000 until 0305 last night, apart from a period from 2205 - 2220 when I was making an adjustment to the antenna. For the record, my 136kHz rig details for these tests are: TX output - 1200W, 6A antenna current. Antenna - inverted 'V' single wire, fed at one end. Total length of wire 50m, about 16m high in the middle and 9m at the ends. ERP - (estimate based on old measurements - antenna changed slightly since then) approx. 1W. Location - IO91VR; near Hatfield, about 25km north of london, adjacent to the Brookmans Park BBC MF transmission site. I also monitored VA3LK's frequency from 0310 - 0900, but only saw a single 'K' at about 0720. The noise level dropped abruptly at 0600. I don't think the street lights switch off this early, anyway there aren't any down my road. It would certainly be interesting if VE1ZZ could run some signals in the early morning; I don't recall him ever being QRV at this time of day, and VA3LK's signal is on the whole best at this time. 3C85 ferrite has an initial permeability around 2200 as I recall - this is typical for a 'power' grade ferrite. The very high permeability ferrites are intended for small-signal, wide band transformer applications usually. Lower permeability ferrites such as 4C65 (mu = 125) are well suited to HF transformer applications. Iron dust cores, like the Micrometals -2 and -6 grades have much lower permeability, and are intended for 'energy storage' applications (resonant circuits and filter components in this context). Philips seems to have sold it's ferrite components buisness to a Taiwanese company called Yageo - oh dear..... But fortunately, Ferroxcube seem to have reappeared in the meantime - http://www.ferroxcube.com/ has data sheets. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU