Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v3RE6mX3012959 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:06:49 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1d3k10-0007Vb-Fg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:03:26 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1d3k0z-0007VS-7L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:03:25 +0100 Received: from mail-wr0-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22a]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1d3k0u-0002Tr-7M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:03:23 +0100 Received: by mail-wr0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id w50so17892734wrc.0 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:03:19 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:date:message-id:to:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WaEtWNqBHoSndjFzrVCLQ89dNHCVU9bnLMGmdWvQAeo=; b=KWAy9qRaP/qfKbQZtTH0iva0Fi5+p+8AHm0vaonsXbnqn7+XS7D8fkOA1mGFhzOIHc Yn/i915L2rbmOnurTaOIdZCVOX9J+VsPnmjM71MPvjEZybvX6tWHXP3X+r8wvKQXpyRj p9T+TE6dQd4OEVxVa5xBmBAAFjVoCrp4HsOuHIVSuH5n8u1p1+6SmZ/sTQapkzSrgmwV 0sUKwOTjlJzQg75r8uaDlhi8vxXQHXeKj1nBcrMo/1SpP80FiroKFyurUg7C4GO3COpW 1qfnQErIZz8G0/bmu5KvAXaktaTKvW5kkGsNjZnQSdOXammbn0BVdAb5oYsDylFrtPaE Ud8w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:date:message-id:to:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WaEtWNqBHoSndjFzrVCLQ89dNHCVU9bnLMGmdWvQAeo=; b=Gy4v9xhl+K2qvCu9KMEsWwLqD1S9M+0XGlNuiD2Mj1x/5GwWme6fy8kZbc0GyC/3BV J+FqH8UXvunRoZJnPZJJxZ3uKlgwgGPkQOXA7hhNqTOmpLQkvEz+u6le/9txSg6hxPd8 9eTUQX4MWydWzMPH5vhccxTbTFY7nn/HRGfWja4fT702pxZE6gvq3OoATteJ9TM3dQ1W X/3f1fMoGLnc2d1JAYhU9M+FTVAmJplrdUs4R5NSmAQPaibS5QM0SWGUBu6Nn7UB9B3v oGAkrdnh7bH2MbxWbToTgwqUfyA4DateBhwQdwPOpp5pQkTfS/h6Aun3xR9nCxvEuLAG v8AQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/78z8TPWaWmNBVCrzuNEHrXft6+7YzLMTeUv9CcnVSHFd2u33Zu K4yZNc8axDidcgLU X-Received: by 10.223.163.91 with SMTP id d27mr4428847wrb.27.1493301797534; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OfficeWin7.lan (82-70-254-222.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk. [82.70.254.222]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x20sm1729163wrd.63.2017.04.27.07.03.16 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:03:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Wilson X-Google-Original-From: Chris Wilson Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:03:15 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1106627522.20170427150315@gmail.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: 0a4643e586472c13187d293ec5d096c2 Subject: LF: Varistor spike management Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11492 Hello LF'ers, In the hope it may help or be of interest my experiments with containing the level of spikes seen at the end of a TX on the drains of push pull FET's has shown that the conventional, wire lead varistor of sufficient capacity to quell these spikes adds significant capacitance and ringing on the drains is greatly increased. I thought I'd get some surface mount ones and the difference is quite remarkable. They add NO additional ringing as they are physically a LOT smaller for a similar power handling ability, and thus have much less intrinsic capacitance themselves. I used these and spikes on the end of a TX where the back emf was showing up to 400V + are kept at or below 200V, within the capability of most FETs likely to be used in a medium or large power amp. They also have that wonderful quality that we all love of being very cheap! http://uk.farnell.com/panasonic-electronic-components/erzvf2m121/varistor-smd-120v/dp/1845508 I am not sure if many have looked at their drain wave form when a TX ceases, I have to assume everyone has some spiking, just what decides how great it is I am not sure. -- Best regards, Chris mailto:dead_fets@gmail.com