Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22153 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2004 19:13:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jul 2004 19:13:22 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BnMXC-000BSj-LT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:13:46 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BnMXC-000BSd-J6 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:13:46 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BnMWm-000IAz-9p for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:13:20 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BnMWG-0002uk-L5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:12:48 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BnMWG-0002ub-8m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:12:48 +0100 Received: from outbound05.telus.net ([199.185.220.224] helo=priv-edtnes43.telusplanet.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BnMWB-0007c8-Tv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:12:48 +0100 Received: from localhost ([199.185.220.240]) by priv-edtnes43.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.03 201-2131-111-105-20040624) with ESMTP id <20040721191236.GIG4205.priv-edtnes43.telusplanet.net@localhost> for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:12:36 -0600 Received: from 204.174.12.17 ( [204.174.12.17]) as user sthed475@192.168.200.1 by webmail.telus.net with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:12:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1090437156.40fec024dec3a@webmail.telus.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:12:36 -0700 From: "Scott Tilley, VE7TIL" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002f01c46df8$a3fcfec0$72cdfc3e@l8p8y6> <005901c46e86$99e744c0$3401a8c0@JKA> <000101c46ec1$5e3e4820$69d0fc3e@l8p8y6> <004301c46f53$26dfdaf0$3401a8c0@JKA> In-Reply-To: <004301c46f53$26dfdaf0$3401a8c0@JKA> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1-cvs X-Originating-IP: 204.174.12.17 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.869 Subject: Re: LF: Loops v Verticals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Seems Mal has forgotten the primary purpose behind amatuer radio 'self learning' NOT 'self promotion.' Thankfully we have many others are willing to share and help us new to the craft to learn and enjoy this hobby of hobbies and contribute in a positive manner. 73 Scott Quoting John Andrews : > Mal, > > > Who in the U.S. has worked the distance on a loop that I have covered on > > normal CW using a vertical > > Scarborought to Russia, you must have read about it. If you need more > info > > let me know. > > No, thanks. I remember your messages about the event quite well, and you > were certainly well congratulated at the time. I'm not sure where you have > gotten the impression that anyone is claiming that a well constructed > vertical antenna in a clear area is inferior to a loop for transmitting at > LF. The vertical is certainly the best option for people with the resources > to do it right. > > In reading your messages over the years, you have consistently discouraged > radio activities in which one could not be the biggest, the best and the > first. My only fear is that fellows new to the craft would take this > seriously, and feel too limited by equipment, money and real estate to even > try participating in LF work. But perhaps even the greenest of us can > recognize bluster and self-promotion for what it is. > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > > >