Return-Path: Received: (qmail 96270 invoked from network); 18 May 2004 20:40:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore04.plus.net with SMTP; 18 May 2004 20:40:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 43836 invoked from network); 18 May 2004 20:40:53 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 18 May 2004 20:40:51 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BQBON-000BHL-L5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 18 May 2004 21:40:51 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BQBNZ-0002eK-Pb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 May 2004 21:40:01 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BQBNZ-0002eB-AA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 May 2004 21:40:01 +0100 Received: from thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.45]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BQHw7-0001sQ-9Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 04:40:07 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461011377DC for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 22:39:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.71]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id B895E13778D for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 22:39:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E3DAEE0C for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 22:39:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 220.34-201-80.adsl.skynet.be (220.34-201-80.adsl.skynet.be [80.201.34.220]) by webmail2.kuleuven.be (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 22:39:49 +0200 Message-ID: <1084912789.40aa7495a09a0@webmail2.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:39:49 +0200 From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003201c43d13$c22fc500$2102000a@ibm> In-Reply-To: <003201c43d13$c22fc500$2102000a@ibm> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2-cvs X-Originating-IP: 80.201.34.220 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=1.052,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: Re: LF: output transformer problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Hi Dick, I forgot what design you are using, but I'm a bit surprised of all the trouble you got with the output transformer and LPF. I have built several variations on the G3YXM design (http://www.wireless.org.uk/136rig.htm) and it all worked without problems. Output transformers were on double-U core salvaged from old TV sets and the LPF has "air coils" (would on plastic "plumber tubes"). Only critical thing is the ratio of the output transformer, as the LPF is 50 Ohm in/out the transformer has to convert the low impedance at the drains to 50 Ohm. If the ratio is too low the FET's draw a lot of current and you get little output. If you are not sure what the ratio should be it is better to start with a far too high ratio (then you will have little output power but also little drain current) and gradually decrease the ratio (remove windings from the "antenna-side" of the transformer). 73, Rik ON7YD Citeren Dick : > Hello all, > > due to circumstances I'll have less time to work on the transmitter. > > Meanwhile I tried several other transformers, as well as some > other things, like disconnecting the Scottky diodes and the 470nF > C's . > Now I have 6R8 from the TC4426 direct to the gates, which > are grounded with 47k resistor. > I tried all kind of things around the FET's with other C's to ground > or > with C-R to ground etc. > Some progress has been made, but still difficult. > > The ouput filter seems to have a quite large influence on the over > all > drain current. > Also the value of the capacitor that grounds the centre tap is > important. > In my case I found better results at 330nF. > > Several available cores tested, like 3C11 (white) and 3E1 (green) > both 36mm. > Also tried an T106-26 from an old computer SMPS. > > Wonder what current I should have when applying lower supply > voltages > to the FET's. > For example. what currents to others have at 15V or 20V or so. > > 73, Dick, pa4vhf > > >